my best time was 13.1 @ 108mph

2.0 60 foots.

cant touch this bishes

Coming along nicely.
108 should be good for 12's.
More fine tuning needed?

Nice job Travis, impressive. That's in the 12's with a bit more suspension tweaking and a little more tuning!

You ran as fast as Bennie, that's funny.

you mean faster.

my engine rules, time to get teh suspension up to par for the launches.

and at the same time ill do all the chip tuning, got my lappy now and everything, all my blms and int's read high. im gonna get an ac delco o2 though see if that may be an error in 02

what are your blms and int. at

We cant??


Congrats on the times. You're just a 1.9 60' away from 12's!

Nice job Travis, 12's are for sure possible. The new o2 should work better and hopefully fix the slow o2 flag and bring down the blm's etc with a little more tuning.

Terrell, his blm's were always around 137-145. The other night we also checked out my car and I was very steady at 128, some times a little under that. My car rules bishes!!!

Congrats trav sux when ur like .1 away from that time you want huh

On a side note im waitin on you payin me for these LCA relocation brackets

sure its the O2, may just need more fuel for all that air thats flowing

on another side note, when i went to the track i need a confirmation that she was blowin black smoke, cuz i changed the jets in my carb today to 1 lower in the primary and secondary side of the carb.

yeah she was I have a vid if you want

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I have msn and yahoo

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how big is this thing u know hotmail has a limit right

got it kool man, mike gave me the same run on his POS but you cant c it...cuz its a POS

cool

good **** those are the exact times i ran before my computer ****ed up! except my 60 was a 2.3 but who cares now all i have is a saturn.

cool travis, you need some traction and you'll see alot better times. Although I fear your stock bottom end. A 108 trap speed puts you dead square at about 315 RWHP.

ah thatnks why his car took a crap on him, tony jinx'd it with that post

anybody want some LCA relocation brackets, From Spohn, brand new never used, 60 shipped to lower 48

will they fit a 10 bolt

So thirdgen 350's can't support 315 hp on the bottom end very well? What makes them so weak as to not be able to maintain the 315 hp that a stock LS1 engine can?

Who's car took a crap?

3rd gens should not have trouble at all sustaining 350+ at the wheels.
I hope to be one of them next year.
400+ I'd be more concerned.

travis's, he was on the freeway and he said his car started to shake or something then the car just died out when he went to restart it all he heard was a clunk

oops, damn pushrods

I've not tested it myself, but I'm under the impession that a lot of other manufacturers' (other than AC Delco) O2 sensors have a slew rate much faster than the stock style Delco. So...If I'm right, whenever the ECM takes a "snapshot" of the current O2 readings, it's in a transitionary phase whereas the Delco would be slower to respond and thus more or less average out the readings...

Anyone think so or is me CraZieee?

Damn, that sucks.
Pushrods, again?

Eric, you're enjoying Travis's misfortune a little too much!
You know you've had endless problems with your install too.

Ya poor Travis, he called me last night when his car died. Sounds like the bottom end took a crap. He said his starter is getting power and trying to turn the motor, but the motor won't even try to turn over, sounds like it's locked up he said.

Don't talk too much crap Eric, is your car running yet? If it is I bet it's leaking all over the place.

lol im not enjoying it sucks CAUSE WE NEED TO RACE

theres a reason my car hasnt been touched since my b-day

One with 20k might be able to, but not a 170k mile engine that's already been beat up pretty bad, as apparently has been proven. 170k is WAY past the due date for a heads/cam. I wouldn't do a heads/cam on ANYTHING with more than 75k maximum.

Travis, send that f*cking block to a machine shop and have them balance and blueprint a new stock rebuild bottom end. It will hold your power and shouldn't have any problems.

Sorry to hear about the car, but it was inevitable. At least the block is probably still good, and your heads/intake should be fine.

Seems to me there are tons of members on the board that have 100K+ on their cars running head/cam combos just fine.
I think there lies another problem within Travis's IROC.
I didn't know he had 170K on the clock though.

Anybody know how much it costs to have a machine shop balance and blueprint a new stock bottom end?
Not that I would do that, just curious.
I'm hoping my 60K'r can handle that amount of power and much more as it stands.

Am I just crazy or is something I'm noticing actually happenning:

I've seen that when people baby their engines from day one, the engines seem to actually be weak when hit with something strong such as a power adder.

I've also noticed that when people push their engines harder (not killing them, but harder) they seem more able to handle power adders later.

My only guess is that the metal does not fatigue as much when it's in constant hard use, but this seems to defy logic?

well ive done a couple of motors i hav a shop hes been pretty good to me but if i drop off the block and buy my own kit from summit the kits usualy around 400 or so for the speed pro forged pistons oil pump and all new clevit bearings and freeze plugs and the machine shop charges me 500 to assemble it if u want it balanced its alot more if ure guna balance it u better just buy a new flywheel and balancer they need it all to balance it but if ure jsut doin the crank and bearings and pistons youl be fine no need to balance since the crank is and the rest of the rotating assembly is the same

Its in ur head bro

I paid an extra $300 to have my short block balanced. blueprint is a waste of money all the do is write down all the measurements

So if u just change the pistons and the crank you dont need to rebalance it is that what you're saying?

im sayin youl be fine just turnin the ure crank 10 over and havin it balanced with the new kit from summit its on the cheap side and wont break ure pocket u can pick up the kit from summit for around 400 they come standard 9.7.1 compression with 64 cc heads the kits get expensive once u start getting in to difrent compresion ranges but buy the time u get the gaskets quench ure right around 10.1 a 355 at 10.1 shop around and find a shop that back there work hey if ure nor tryin to break the back hey u can have a pretty good bottom end with some forged pistons that u can run juice and still turn 6 grand for what under a grand and from listening to u guys talk how travis car died on the freeway to me sounds like his oil pump took a **** but the oil pressure sensor not workin right or didnt kill the motor on time and caused it to sieze up

ohh and travis if u need another block i have 1 sittin at the machine shop that does mines he backs his work up i have a 880 block full roller short block sittin there right now crank rods and pistons i was goin to do it for another car but if u need it just give me ure bottom end after u get ures together just drop ures off later to the same machine shop i have the roller lifters and all it dont need to be bored it can be honed but i was goin to bore it to have alil higher compresion from summit for the speed pro forged it whould only be 9..2.1 and borin it 30 over 355 whould bring it 9.7.1 10.1

hey valencia, pm me a price you want unless you just want to trade?

what internals does it have? is it ready to run, kinda hard to read your text.

Travis, spill the beans, what's up with your car, did the bottom end really crap out or what? We need answers bish!

answers? come up and and find out for yourself, ill recline back in the chair sippin on some beverage, and yuou get your *** all greasy.

lol, ok bish, you supply the beer and I am there.

It's not a waste of money terrel, they don't just write down the measurments. Sure you get a peice of paper with all the measurements written on it, but what is important is that those measurements are ACCURATE to within a micron man! It's PERFECT! Engines tend to last under great deals of stress when they're assembled perfectly. Ask any racer or engine builder.

Yeah del, yours at 60k should be fine. More than about 90 and I wouldn't want to be doing a cam. Just puts too much stress on an engine that is already set in it's ways. That's why travis's blew. It couldn't take that much power. But that was the fault of the general alignment of the engine being off from stock due to wear over the years. If he had a brand new engine with the exact same rotating assembly, it would run beautifully.

whos to say that...none of the parts he put on or the 315hp he had didnt blow his engine

about the only thing bad id say that caused some failure is the fact that you put a new headgasket/lower compression on an old bottom end. so id say its the new cylinder pressures it couldnt take. the other problem is his spring pressure was far too great for his setup.


putting in a cam wouldnt cause a bottom end failure unless there was clearance issues.

thanks for telling me what went wrong with my engine, saves me the trouble of diagnosing tomorrow.

no way its neither of the things i said, theres no fun if you dont diagnose

ill try to make it up and give you a hand...