You might want to ad the title "Dr. Doom" instead of "bad news"
Who is this guy?

 

there are to many retards having massive amounts of babies. So the government should start shooting people and taking there cars away. less people equal less cars right sounds good to me if the government did that we would be in a way better postions as well

 

The state tried promoting public transportation, alternative fuel vehicles, carpooling, etc. etc. .... All if a effort to lower smog levels. This was forseen as the states next move to reduce smog levels. Next year there are new laws in the making and lowered emmisions standards. Soon illegal smog technicians will be a thing of the past as toughened regulations and monitoring equipment is installed at all shops. It will only get worse until every is compliant with emmisions standards here so why fight whats inevitable.

 

 

"THE END IS NEAR!"

 

Why do you drive a thirdgen when you know their are much more cleaner vehicles out their, that seems to fit your style a whole lot more.

explain please?

 

hahaha

 

Cause my 3rd gen burns extremly clean and generally doesn't even come within 1/2 of the average ratings. So my car is certainly a clean burning car that all should be like. The state could lower the maximums to what the averages are and my car could still pass with ease. So I'de be worried more about your cars future then mine ...... Your going to see these maximum limits dropped even more next year. Ask any smog guy he will tell you the same thing the state is going to get very tough in the next two years.

 

My cars future is just fine. I daily drive something in stock form if I ever need to smog it ( I'm registered in a no-smog county ) and my hotrod has no emissions on it, and I plan to drive it just fine as well come as soon as my procharger package arrives *taps foot impatiently*

 

How long you think that will last ????????? These smog exempt areas will soon cease to exist as well then what are you gonna do.

 

NowTheBadNews, You must have been planted here by Al Gore.

 

I will swap in a stock motor every year for smog.

 

There's always somebody out there that wants to make an easy $400 or so....

 

Post smog cert. or STFU.

 

I say just STFU

 

It passed with ease whats the point but here is what it blew HC 15mph 23 25mph 21 ...... CO 15mph .10 25mph .02 ...... NO 15mph 218 25mph 145 ....... thats nearly 1/2 the set of all averages ......
....................... Oh and here are the averages and max's ........ HC ... Max 15mph 122 average 47 .... 25mph max 95 average 36 ....... CO 15mph max .91 average .18 .... 25mph max .71 average .14 ....... NO 15mph max 1074 average 438 ..... 25mph max 904 average 357 ........ So yes even if california got extreme and made the averages the maximum limits I could still pass. I'm sure prom tuning in my car could even lower my numbers a little.

 

Hmmmmm interesting concept never thought about buying a smog certificate .... But you know whats a new cat 100-125 installed, 40 for a good tune up, 50 for the smog check ..... 200 bucks ..... I will pass on paying someone 400.00 when the car can be legal for 200 but thats just me.

 

Your crazy, I swear. I'm reading your old posts within the last month, Let's talk about your 90 TBI. You had trouble passing that, did it ever happen? HOW much BS did you go through to get it done? Even you admit that "Smogging in california has just got to far out of hand" but here, you seem to praise california smog laws.
Lets talk about your 58mm throttle body as well, WHY are you using it? You know it's not carb certified and thus, illegal to use on a pollution controlled vehicle.
And lastly, how did you get a 3.8 buick engine stamped for use in your 83 T/a?
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I would be much happy to pay 400 dollars to keep my procharged 383 the way it is, even with cats and emissions devices, it would not pass. (not carb certified blah blah blah)

 

My 3.8 fails a visual but for obvious reasons. But this car is just a novelty project for me. The 90 TBI passed with ease after a new cat and tank purge valve big deal aint like it was a tedious task to fix it LOL .... The car passed with old cat converter but numbers were on the high side since the cat was 6 years old I just changed it to ensure my retest was even better the car only failed the evap test which that was a simple fix as well .... The TPI throttlebody is for a friends car not mine. ....... You put to much thought into a TB is not carb certified how is a tech going to know it's not the stock one LOL .... My 3.8 can never pass smog so why try, engine is older then body so thats a no brainer, I just bought the car to tinker with and as a conversation piece "a early factory looking turbo trans am" but car was originally a CFI car.

 

So your the one with a garage queen.
I brought up the throttlebody because of coarse the tech can't tell, but it's still illegal, and you know it, and technically the car shouldn't be on the road with it. So what is your stance on smog? Sounds like you agree that if it passes tailpipe numbers, then the mods should not matter? Why couldn't you just say that to begin with instead of digging under our skin to get a reaction?

 

lol hahah screw the smog cert he should just stfu the guy who started this fixed his car and thats all that matters right? new thread with no hippys

 

i cant believe the crap that comes out of your keyboard.. you should be banned

 

HEY-HEY-HEY!

Come on guys, let up on the guy. He's obviously young and/or immature and hasn't been seasoned yet by 'life'. I admire that he has thought out his belief system as thoroughly (so far) as he has. Unfortunately, he feels strongly that he's right. There is no way in hell ANY of us can tell a know-it-all differently, only experience will change him.

The facts that people have ignorantly abusued smog in the past (and I want to emphasise IN THE PAST) dosn't mean that the majority of us havn't gotten a clue since. My point that didn't seem to get across, is that a smog failure isn't always just a cut and dry 'replace this sensor' only. Sometimes it does take a lot of head scratching and trial & error to fix; which is why I'm against the smog check a year.

As for our 'Mystery Writter', why don't you publish your name so we can address you more in person- it's appearing cowardly.

What you should think about is why you keep rising to the proverbial 'bait' we keep throwing out to you. You come across with a desperate need to be the one who is always right. We've got a GTG coming up this spring. How willing do you think the rest of us are going to be to include you or ever help you when you do eventually get stuck on a repair/mod???

Would you rather be Right or Happy????

I'm glad you are learning to be aware of the repurcussions of how humans have really screwed the environment for the future generations. But if you come across as a Socialist ****, swastika waving extremest; who's going to give you the time of day? Mostly no-one. Thus you've completely wasted your breath, our time, our 3rd Gen board, and our comradery.

In essense; we don't want you here. You're not helpful. Come back when life has dragged you through the gutter a couple of times and taught you humility. Nitro

 

well said

 

.....DELETE.......
(was mulling over a really smart aleck pretend post that was majorly innapropriate & hit the wrong key) (wasn't trying to insinuate anyone having a particular sexual orientation)

 

Wow is all I can say, that was deep and obviously I've struck a nerve! Honestly though I think I can handle any problems that arise with my car myself or just send it to pontiac for repairs. I figure it this way, they built the car they can certainly fix it. Sounds like you need the potential help fixing your car from members here far more then I do. ....... Besides I'm not like you and whats the sense in these get togethers, yeah would be fun with the likes of a ferrari or something but a f-body. I will pass

 

You're hi-jacking the thread and wasting our time. Take your marbles and go home.....

 

Wow... go away for a week and my thraed gets all fagged up.

What a shame.

 

Holy Crud. his thread is jacked!

What happened here??

Let get back to the topic. Did you ever get you car to pass smog?

 

I think he did get it to pass.

 

Interestingly; now that I am able to put all the drivetrain parts together and check out the suspension, I find out that the much tighter trans and torque converter has raised my idle by several hundred RPM, which is causing my TPI to run richer while it searches for a way to compensate.

I went ahead and ordered all the PROM diagnostic & writting package stuff from Craig Moates. Looks like I'm going to have to reburn a PROM anyway because of this latest issue. I might as well have all the stuff so we can play with it at the April GTG. I'm thinking we should put a PROM/TPI table together.

I wouldn't mind putting together a packet of PROM's to select for each driving situation (one for smog, one for mileage, one for track, etc).
{From the Nitro Active, Nitro-Nicky}

 

Just had to get the cat warm. The tester checked for vacuum leaks and then ran it on the dyno for about 20 minutes to heat it up, then wah-la. I think the new EGR helped too.

Axle installation within a month and not a lick too soon. I could use more braking power (and that sweet 3.27 gear).

 

Are you doing the axles or the entire rear? 9,10,12 bolt?

 

9 bolt Aussie off an '89 GTA (entire rear). Looks like it'll have new PBR's and rotors to go along with the new MS and prop valve too. It is possible my pads on the front are wore out already? They are making a griding sound so I'll probably replace these too. I want the brakes to be able to easily stop the car and hold her down at a light.

I got some really sweet, boxed control arms from Comp788 (Brett, I'll have your dough the next time we see each other), e-brake cables, speedo gear, blah, blah, blah. The sway bar is much more hefty than that one on there now too.

Should be nice.

 

Nice! I've had really good luck with mine. I've read good stuff about them too! There weren't as many out there, so finding someone who's familiar with them might be a chore. Check out this:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/faq-...now-about.html
Worth the read!

 

Awesome. Thanks!

 

I'm jealous of your 9bolt PBR rears as I am going to do the LS1 thing real soon like and need to ditch my Delcos

 

Hey Cadillac,
You're definitely making the smart move by installing the proportioning valve. I was fortunate enough to already have the rear discs on my 9-bolt so when I upgraded the entire brake system I was surprised that I still couldn't get the rear's to lock up. Fortunately, Travis pointed out that even the factory system needs like a Wilwood prop valve to get these heavy dog's to whoa-up from speed.

I just got my fresh copy of CarCraft magazine in the mail today. They're featuring an 88 Camaro Twin-Turbo beast that's popping out over 800+hp at the rear wheels. He uses a 3.25:1 rear gear in a 9inch Moser housing. I know I'm really happy with the 3.27 Aussie's I just installed.

When I get my Craig Moates PROM tuning package next week, I'm hoping that I'll find that I'll be able to change the speedometer calibration through the ECM, since the tranny shop I used just scratched their thinning heads and just guessed on the correct gear. The new Raybestos Rotors are holding up solid to the heavy braking without any warp/wobble (so far)...
Good Luck, Nitro

 

Auto or Manual Trans?

 

Good to hear you finally got a rear end for that thing Mike, should be a fun upgrade! We still gotta get together for lunch sometime

I'm glad my nova came with an 8.5" rear

 

I did the LS1 rear conversion. Im not using my prop valve. My car didnt come with disk. Was never sure if i should of did that mod??

 

My 91 RS has the original catalytic converter in it, hasn't legally passed smog in years. I'm originally from the bay but go to school at UC Davis, I know a couple smog places around vacaville where its cheap to smog and guaranteed to pass

 

I had to have my car smogged this last summer, by my uncle, and he had to abort the first test because it did so bad and had to do a few trial runs before it passed, which it barely did. I cant imagine how close it going to be next time I need to have it smogged.

 

Hi, I'm looking for the process on Dyno Don drill mod. Any good instructions? Thanks