lol - Currently that's 2" total; compression and extension about 1" each from ride height.

Obviously small tires need more travel/adjustability to help dial-in, just noting I'm less worried about the valving than the spring rate. Any off-the-shelf gas charged strut will jump up quick with a soft enough spring, but will also still allow the front to come back down through the run.

i'm running a v6 spring with a coil cut off. should i go to a trick spring?

give those a shot then! then you can see how they work and you're not out anything but the time to put them on if they don't work well

I'd stick with that for now. If that's an all alum LS it may indeed be lighter than an oe iron v6 would have been though. - For note thought, I don't do the store bought "trick" springs, just bust out the moog coil spring catalogue and go to work.

x2, though likely just playing with the launch as is will net most of it.

it's an iron 6l block if that makes any difference. probably one of the reasons why the car weighs 3465 w/ me in it right now.

Just figured that I would throw this up for ya mw66nova, I saw that you were thinking about pulling off your bullets for a set of ultraflows. I did the same thing a few weeks ago. I now have 3" x-pipe with dual ultraflows and dumps before the axle. The difference is night and day db wise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtSaiyyJlG4

wow that sounds really good...it's got the sounds i want in the upper rpm range without the volume...i'd hate to tell my wife i'm about to buy another set of mufflers though...but it would be nice not to have to worry about packaging a set of tailpipes onto my current setup...

i like those ultra flows too

aka...
Steve: "i told you so"
Matt: [hangs head]

I want my setup to sound better outside at WOT, but i love the idle, i think i might try the Spiral Flows from Moroso.

I have a 4" Ultraflow on my car now and I love it. My buddy bought a 4" mufflex too, but he chose the magnaflow and I think it sounds crappy. That's just my opinion.

Yeah this is the fourth and last exhaust setup of the summer for me. Started with dual 3" 2 chamber flowmasters, that droned so bad at idle that it sounded like I had a subwoofer in my hatch. I dont know why my car was so bad, I have a few friends running the same type setup and they are nowhere near as bad as mine. Then I switched to open headers for a while, that was just for fun. Then the third setup was with 3" bullets, which wasnt half bad the first 10 miles then they broke in and got pretty loud. They were a tad quieter than open headers. Maybe Im getting older now but I just cant stand driving a car around that makes that much noise. My ears would ring after a 20 minute ride and I couldnt here anything else but the exhaust. As soon as I installed the ultraflows with a x-pipe I discovered that I had a rocker that was out of adjustment and a bad noise coming from my trans. I love the way it sounds now. My buddies all thought I was crazy changing it all the time, but I thought it was well worth the trial and error to get it right.

me....say that!?!?! never!

i had a set and didn't like them, put some fullsize mufflers or the big oval shaped ones on there

yeah, i hated the moroso spirlas i had on my car as well. gotta come up with some cash to get a set of these ultraflows.

hey craig, there's a pretty cool race going down this saturday at SDR. two different groups going to be there. Nostalgia drags, a bunch of older guys with older nostalgia drag cars, and some slant six group with a bunch of mopar slant slix powered rides. both groups are open for other types of cars to show up and have fun too. you should come out. i think it'll be a neat day of drag racing. also supposed to be some kinda car show too...dunno what that's all about.

Hey, only if your going I'm there Bro! The Iroc is going to the chasie shop tomorrow to straighten out the radiator core support and check for straightness. I'm hoping to have the car back together by 5-6 Nov for the Buick shootout. It won't look good, but it will be quick. But for now I scored a Vortech V2 SQ supercharger w/aftercooler and I'm thinking about installing it on my 92. I'm going to see if this stock bottom end can handle 10-12lbs of boost LOL. It should be fun!

I need something that will give me room under that car for ground clearance.


What did you not like about the spiral flows?

aside from they sounded like butt-munch? they also slowed the car down vs the bullets.

well if you need more room then cut out the floor where the back seat cushions are and raise it up 2" then you have all the room in the world, take the bottom seats apart and cut out the foam to make them flat and reinstall them if you want that "stock" look.

this is exaclty what i've been thinking lately. maybe a winter upgrade so i can take the interior back out of the car.

well feel free to stop out to help me with this pain in my butt as well.

any luck with yours yet? think that intake is too tall yet?

raced the mustang i built saturday and been relaxing since then. Tomorrow I'll start wrenching on it again.

Well, i have heard them on LS1 4th gens, sounded pretty good, maybe your setup made it different? Damn, i would be pissed if it sounded like ****, i dont know, i am sure a outlaw muffler would be too loud.

they sound like crap. You need to spend your money on tires first, my small cam only vic jr carb ls1 from years ago is killing your ET and mph, so you need some suspension/carb tuning or traction. Oh and that was through 2 turbo mufflers with dual 2.5" exhaust all the way out the back through chrome 4th gen tips.

I thought about a Y pipe and 4 inch dumped, but i think i will keep what i have for now. I have the ET streets for business and the 295/50/16s will be on there soon. What was your ET in the 1/8th?

^^^true story zone, you need tires before you need anything else.

Like i said, i have ET streets for when i mean business, i just dont run around on them just for the fun of it, they are not free.

let's just say it was a lot better than yours , you know me I don't post times but I can tell you being down on cam, cubes and compression and using 241 heads you would have been in my rear view mirror a ways

Well, i just like to compare MPH, my ET sucks, but since it is a 99% street car, it doesnt bother me. I know a set of heads will wake my 6.0 up, the cam is seriously down from its desired compression much less the lack of flow to a set of ported 243s. A stalled auto is going in the 86 TA, that one will be 50% drag/50% street and serious business.

93 MPH is not bad for a stock truck motor, but there are guys with them light **** mustangs going faster with less weight. Hell, the billy flantos dude on tech is going 9s all motor with a 6.0 with a set of milled unported 799s. That is just something us heavy third gen lovers cannot do i dont think, maybe a stripped formula might be able to get close.

unported in the runners, maybe.....

he's in a very light fox body platform also. He claims untouched not even a valve job on those 799 heads and stock bottom end 6.0L

Yea, thing is wicked of just cammed 6.0, shows how bad i need compression.

if you can't hook what you have now....you don't need more power, you need more traction.

Does everyone keep passing up where i said i have ET streets? I get traction when i want it, not going to run around wasting the MTs just driving. I have 295/50/16 on the way that will be way better than these 245/50/16s.

No i haven't seen you post up any good ETs from the drag strip according to your mph, that's all I was saying. Thought it was like 8.0 at 93, and should be 7.20s or 7.30s at that mph. Also I've ran the m/t radials and bfg radials in 255/50r16 and 275/50r15 and had no problems hooking on the street. Needs more throttle modulation by that right food maybe.

its possible..... i figure an nmra pure street car @2800lbs with around 425rwhp could pop off a 9.99. i think they have to run around 3100lbs and make around 450rwhp. they ran around the 10.teens last time i followed their stuff.

anyways, its possible, but figure his car is setup to the point of being an nmra pure street car. which is cool.

I am on radials right now, not drag radials, my car hooks damn good when i had the Nitto 555Rs on there before they went bald. So traction is just an issue with these 245 road huggers that are also 4 or 5 years old. They just get me down the road.

And if i had a stalled auto, i am sure i would be knocking down low 7s, but being a 6 speed and not wanting to have driveshaft failure due to being a stock LT1 shaft, i dont want to destroy my T56 tail housing or output shaft.

I might go to the track this friday if i get my weight reduction dont this week, that and the carb spacer should be good for 7.8s i hope, hell, a 150 pound drive is probably good for another 2 tenths, i am 300 pounds myself.

haha me you and matt are all in the 300 pound club don't worry about that. If the LT1 shaft is steel let it rip, if it's aluminum, I broke those years ago on a 11.60 305 I had with a 150 shot out of the gate with a th350 trans footbraking it. Time to step it up to a serious 1350 spicer u-joint at either end and a quality 3" .083 wall steel shaft.

for sure, if you're so "serious" about this, then why do you have stock parts in key places?

my car is no liteweight either. 3465lbs with me in it (300lbs like steve said). oh, and i drive mine regularly too, so don't think it just races. this car doesn't leave the house without a sticky tire on it. aside from wanting to be ready for a street fight or two, it's safer. i've had to drop the hammer on it to get out of the way of stupid drivers before. with the drag radials on it, the car hooks and goes, with regular radials, the car slides all over the place.

maybe i'm just lucky that mine hooks coming out of a car wash, but I never had "serious" trouble even on a regular radial, but I was amazed when the BFGs came out how hard I could hit that drag radial on the street once they warmed up a bit. Those tires last quite a while as well at 18-22 pounds, think it's like 7-10k out of them.

Well, i have a stock DS because i have not got a good piece yet, there is a local place here in Houston that makes them and they are on the to do list, i just have my cash in other places right now, between expecting kiddo #2 and trying to get my business to take off, the drive shaft in a street car is jus not priority. But when it is in, then i will let her eat, 6000 or 6500 rpm launch at the track, bet your *** i get mid 7s or better then, LOL. Not to mention losing some weight off the car between now and then, hell, i bet i hit high 7s this friday if i get the extra weight out of the car.

Yea my Mickey Thompson ET street radials (275/60/15) have done great so far on the street. I have only like 600-700 miles on my car so I havent really launched it yet but from a slow roll of like 15 mph in second gear I hammered it and it doesnt even break traction. I might make less power then some of you guys but I'm still around 500 or so flywheel HP. I have 50/50 drag shocks, spohn LCA's with poly bushing, spon panhard bar, and energy suspension bushings on sway bar with preload set into it on largest factory sway bar. Nothign crazy of a suspension and it seems to hook great so far and I have never done a burn out before any of these semi launches. Things are finally coming together and getting broken in and I might launch it soon. It is getting close to winter up north so if something breaks all well I will have time to fix it over the winter. lol I think many people are more concerned with making power then actually putting it down. My cousin keeps building more and more motors but still hasnt had a rear end tht can handle the power for all of these motors. Its like he is tryign to gettign the world record in longest burnouts. lol Zone this is not hating on you at all I hope you do well when you get back to the tract just sharing my experiences. Good luck.

Well, strap 245 radials on your car and make a video of you trying to roll out and i am sure you will have results like mine.

Once again, i hook fine on my tires.


EDIT: Seriously, do i need to strap the ET streets on and hope that some will watch the video of it hooking? Clearly there is lack of reading my posts, LOL.

Hey ZONE, I think you need some tires. You should really look into tires. Tires on the tire with tire tire tire. Know what I mean?

Easy ZONE nothign in my post said anything about your car actually I hated on my cousin more then anything. I wished you luck and said you will do fine. I just dont think it is smart to ever drive around on **** tires like Matt said just for safety. Its like having a large ***** and you cant get an erection just doesnt make sense to me. LMAO Actually yes take a video and make us happy while your at it

I know, EVERYONE keeps mentioning traction and tires, but i keep saying it is not an issue if i need traction, i am just broke right now, expecting a kid and trying to get a business to take off, so i just rock the crap tires that are better than the bald nittos for the rain, i dont drive when i know there will be bad weather, but we all get caught with our pants down every now and then.

Now, i will probably have some new times this friday though, on the ET streets, FYI, LOL.

post VIDEO of it at the track with your tires on and it cutting a good 60'. and no, a 1.8 60' time is not good. that combo should 60' in the 1.5 range if it's hooking and working.

we want to see 7.3s out of that combo, then we know you have traction You make posts about different heads and more compression when you're not hooking now. That's all everyone is pointing out. I'd buy a driveshaft well before the heads etc

Yes, a DS is in the works first, but heads are what i have on my mind as the expensive part. I can hook with the 555Rs, just not radials.

As for a 7.3, it might be possible after i knock off the extra weight i want to lose and lainch near the moon, i hit a 1.9 60 foot launching at 5100, didnt bog, but it was border line. I need to launch higher, but the DS is limiting that for now. I need to pre load my pinion angle as well, right now i am at 0.

Also, i mentioned on Tech, i am taking my carbs to Dan Davinci to have him make one out of the two that will work best. Guy is a bad dude. Not sure if he will change jetting but he can make it so a WOT stab has zero stumble.

i can make it to where a WOT stab has zero stumble, what does this guy know that i don't? accelerator pump circuit tuning isn't voodoo zane.