new to drag racing
new to drag racing
Alright I'm new to drag racing and was looking to start out with building a bracket racing camaro running 13 sec with a goal of 12 sec. Any ideas of rear gears i should run matched with engine combo. I was thinking of running 4.12 gears and a 350 short block but not sure of what heads will be good for this.
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Re: new to drag racing
The diff gears need to be matched to the rest of the combination. Depending on engine rpm range, transmission gears, torque converter stall speed, tire size, you want the gear ratio to allow you to cross the finish line at or just after your peak shift point. You can't just pick a gear ratio and hope it works for your car. It could be too high or too low a ratio.
I've gone through a lot of gear ratios over the years but also kept increasing my tire size, engine rpm range and stall speeds. I currently use 32" tall tires with 4.86 gears. I shift at 7400 rpm and go through the traps between 7400 and 7600 rpm. Last year I tried some 4.57 gears but they dropped the rpm too low and the car just didn't react the same so I put the 4.86 gears back in. Even something like using a lower stall speed converter will require a different gear ratio. My converter stalls at 6200 rpm on the transbrake. If I used a converter with maybe 5500 stall, I might be able to get away with some 5.14 gears.
Start off slow. Take the car to the track with basic parts and upgrades and see what it does. It takes a long time to build it up to what you want with good parts that will last and with a good combination of parts.
I've gone through a lot of gear ratios over the years but also kept increasing my tire size, engine rpm range and stall speeds. I currently use 32" tall tires with 4.86 gears. I shift at 7400 rpm and go through the traps between 7400 and 7600 rpm. Last year I tried some 4.57 gears but they dropped the rpm too low and the car just didn't react the same so I put the 4.86 gears back in. Even something like using a lower stall speed converter will require a different gear ratio. My converter stalls at 6200 rpm on the transbrake. If I used a converter with maybe 5500 stall, I might be able to get away with some 5.14 gears.
Start off slow. Take the car to the track with basic parts and upgrades and see what it does. It takes a long time to build it up to what you want with good parts that will last and with a good combination of parts.
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Re: new to drag racing
Alright I'm new to drag racing and was looking to start out with building a bracket racing camaro running 13 sec with a goal of 12 sec. Any ideas of rear gears i should run matched with engine combo. I was thinking of running 4.12 gears and a 350 short block but not sure of what heads will be good for this.
Last edited by Camaro4663; Oct 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM.
Re: new to drag racing
Sounds similar to what your runnin with now camaro4663. I wasn't exactly plannin on runnin massive tires tho. Maybe 28 by 10 slicks. That should get me plenty of traction for what I'm looking at right now.
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Re: new to drag racing
ya it is similar just i had the 1.94 heads and stock cam and just gears and still got that motor to push my car at a 13.75
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Re: new to drag racing
alright so if I have a 357 sbc with 2.02 camel hump heads with a 650 carb I should be alright running into the 13s.
I was also thinking of putting in a bigger cam. Any ideas on what size if or if I should do it at all.
I was also thinking of putting in a bigger cam. Any ideas on what size if or if I should do it at all.
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Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
Re: new to drag racing
Since this is going to be a bracket car, go with a 750 double pumper carb. The 650 is a little small for racing.
Cam size depends on pistons and how much lift is allowed by the heads. You could have too much lift and the bottoms of the spring retainers will hit the top of the valve guide/seals. Generally, keeping it below .500 lift with stock heads is safe. Anything higher than that and you need to start checking lots of clearances plus needing better valve springs and roller rockers.
Cam size depends on pistons and how much lift is allowed by the heads. You could have too much lift and the bottoms of the spring retainers will hit the top of the valve guide/seals. Generally, keeping it below .500 lift with stock heads is safe. Anything higher than that and you need to start checking lots of clearances plus needing better valve springs and roller rockers.
Re: new to drag racing
Yes i knew that i would most likely need to put different springs in if i changed the cam. Then would putting a different stall converter be something worth looking into?
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Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
Re: new to drag racing
The converter should match the camshaft for best performance. For strip use only, the stall speed should be around 1000 rpm into the powerband. Knowing the advertised duration, a stall speed can be roughly calculated. The best way to know the best stall speed is to put the engine on an engine dyno before purchasing a converter.
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Re: new to drag racing
cooper2799 i might have a whole rotating assembily i could give you this winter i am allways willing to help out a fellow third gen racer but it all depends on what i do and if i can get a set of 195 afr heads at a good price!
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