so how does this sound
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so how does this sound
Ok, so here is the list
1)LT1 engine
2)LT4 conversion
3) vortech blower, i will figure outa way to mound it.
4) some internal work to make it handle boost
What do u guys think of this setup? anything to make it better? thanks Any suggestions will be appriated.
1)LT1 engine
2)LT4 conversion
3) vortech blower, i will figure outa way to mound it.
4) some internal work to make it handle boost
What do u guys think of this setup? anything to make it better? thanks Any suggestions will be appriated.
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Originally posted by madmax
About all of the engine size/magic combo questions:
There is no magic combo. Why do you think so many different manufacturers keep trying different things? They have quite a bit of funding for development, so don't sell the factories short, Ford included. And yet almost year after year there is a different size engine out there better than the last. The improvement isn't some magical bore/stroke/rod/head combination but rather a mix of improved technology and parts combined with well/better matched parts. So if you want to ask if a 283 or 302 or 305 or 307 or 327 or 377 or 348 or whatever engine size you happen to come up with is a 'good' combo, of course it is. Is it better than any other? I'd say the best is the one with the correctly matched parts and the most cubic inches. Period. Want some solid proof? Take a look at racing. In just about every division/group/form of racing there is some sort of limit on cubic inches, usually with penalties for forced induction. Take a good look, and tell me that any of those teams are not constantly bouncing off the limit of cubes that the rules allow. They are not selling themselves short by building a 305 when they are allowed to run 350CI. There is a reason for that you know. Keep in mind that if you want to build that 302, 305, or 327 as opposed to the common 350, that is your choice. However, don't let anyone fool you into thinking that the 350 will not make more power, because it will, every time. I constantly see arguments about dad's 302 or 327, or how someone's 305 will smoke someone else's 350... well sure, thats entirely possible. Stick those same parts on the 350 and as long as they are a relatively good match for the 350, the 350 is going to eat the smaller engine alive. There is a huge difference between being able to make a 305 competitive with a 350 and which one will put out more power. I could probably make an 800hp 305 if I really wanted to, and that would blow away probably any 350 here. Does that make the 305 better? Not hardly, take the same parts and put them on a 350 or 400, and just think about what that will do to the power output. I am not by any means telling you not to build that 305, 302, 327, 283, 348... go right ahead. Sometimes we just have to work with what we have. But if you have a choice, don't ignore some of the excellent advice I see here that suggests to use a 350 instead. Its a very solid foundation, and has been built so many times by so many people, it makes it virtually foolproof for those of us who haven't spent our entire lives building engines. Some food for thought...
And with that, merry swapping.
About all of the engine size/magic combo questions:
There is no magic combo. Why do you think so many different manufacturers keep trying different things? They have quite a bit of funding for development, so don't sell the factories short, Ford included. And yet almost year after year there is a different size engine out there better than the last. The improvement isn't some magical bore/stroke/rod/head combination but rather a mix of improved technology and parts combined with well/better matched parts. So if you want to ask if a 283 or 302 or 305 or 307 or 327 or 377 or 348 or whatever engine size you happen to come up with is a 'good' combo, of course it is. Is it better than any other? I'd say the best is the one with the correctly matched parts and the most cubic inches. Period. Want some solid proof? Take a look at racing. In just about every division/group/form of racing there is some sort of limit on cubic inches, usually with penalties for forced induction. Take a good look, and tell me that any of those teams are not constantly bouncing off the limit of cubes that the rules allow. They are not selling themselves short by building a 305 when they are allowed to run 350CI. There is a reason for that you know. Keep in mind that if you want to build that 302, 305, or 327 as opposed to the common 350, that is your choice. However, don't let anyone fool you into thinking that the 350 will not make more power, because it will, every time. I constantly see arguments about dad's 302 or 327, or how someone's 305 will smoke someone else's 350... well sure, thats entirely possible. Stick those same parts on the 350 and as long as they are a relatively good match for the 350, the 350 is going to eat the smaller engine alive. There is a huge difference between being able to make a 305 competitive with a 350 and which one will put out more power. I could probably make an 800hp 305 if I really wanted to, and that would blow away probably any 350 here. Does that make the 305 better? Not hardly, take the same parts and put them on a 350 or 400, and just think about what that will do to the power output. I am not by any means telling you not to build that 305, 302, 327, 283, 348... go right ahead. Sometimes we just have to work with what we have. But if you have a choice, don't ignore some of the excellent advice I see here that suggests to use a 350 instead. Its a very solid foundation, and has been built so many times by so many people, it makes it virtually foolproof for those of us who haven't spent our entire lives building engines. Some food for thought...
And with that, merry swapping.
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to get a response and so that people can help, you've got to start specific threads for each specific question. just ask for help as each stage progresses and the people here will do what they can 
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Re: so how does this sound
Originally posted by LT1maro
Ok, so here is the list
1)LT1 engine
2)LT4 conversion
3) vortech blower, i will figure outa way to mound it.
4) some internal work to make it handle boost
What do u guys think of this setup? anything to make it better? thanks Any suggestions will be appriated.
Ok, so here is the list
1)LT1 engine
2)LT4 conversion
3) vortech blower, i will figure outa way to mound it.
4) some internal work to make it handle boost
What do u guys think of this setup? anything to make it better? thanks Any suggestions will be appriated.
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From what i've seen on the boards the vette brackets didnt clear the steering box, the vette kits are also quite a bit more expensive than the f body kit, so you could possibly use the March accessory setup with the vette kit, or go rack / pinion and put a 4th gen kit, the ducting with the vette setup wouldnt be too hard, vortech non cooled, hookup as normal, intercool it, just run the opposite of what the normal 3rd gen kits do, out to the pass fender, intercooler up thru drivers and to TB.
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Well, my recommendations on the 'vette brackets and blower package are based on helping a friend do it. I don't remember any clearance problems with the brackets, but distance from the blower to the top passenger side of the radiator was close enougn that it made ducting a bit of a problem.
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