Mark_Hardware

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in 91 the button was located on the tonneau cover itself. The original location (before I pulled it out) was routed to the trunk, up the tonneau cover, and to a plastic housing right next to the roof latch release handle.
Oh and I frequent those sites lol. Just got a big box o parts from thirdgenranch I'm actually prowling around for an ac/heater control panel. Yeah...

EDIT: Yeah I looked at a diagram, and yes the switch is mounted in the tonneau cover. Just, for some reason they decided to take it for a couple laps around the trunk first. Another headscratcher courtesy of GM

Scootermunch

do any of you guys have a location in which someone could sand down a car? i cant do it at my apts, my spot is too far if i ran a chord out my window haha. and i checked for outlets near the area, nothin.

bandit jr. is in need of a few new coats. but i can do that off-street.

can provide pizza and coke or beer.

should have plates on her this week

drknow90rs_ss@y

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I like pizza and beer... You can use my place if you want. I have a couple of acres you can use, just pick your spot and sand away. You can even use my compressor if you want. (I like bud light)

drknow90rs_ss@y

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And... One of these days I'm going to get a vert, just so I can know the answers to some of these weird vert questions!

Beater79TA

There are multiple switches to control the top. On a 1990 at least:

1) in the rear seat on the drivers side to release the pin that goes through the tonneau cover and holds the back of the top down.
2) manual hard tonneau release cables are located behind the rear seats
3) electronic release for the hard tonneau is in the center console where the hatch release normally is between the window switches.

mr305

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There is a 91 RS convertible at the junkyard on 27th ave right next to ecology south of the railroad tracks I think its called pull n save try lookin at that one I took the top but the rest of the panels seemed good if you need innterior stuff but hurry!! Lol

drknow90rs_ss@y

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So your car has a top now? LOL, That is HANDS-DOWN, the best yard in phx for the rare stuff! They buy the nicest thirdgens.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Did that car happen to have a good passenger side door filler panel? (Outside, for GFX). Or a front spoiler/airdam?

Scootermunch

was it the blue one???

i havent owned a 3rd gen for more than a few months, and have noticed that the yard mentioned, and the one a few blocks east of it, on buckeye, are the best 2 for us. i always run into around 5 camaros there.

and one of the bigger yards, south of that, on broadway, usually has a few also.

i was at that yard on broadway a few weeks ago when we had that big rain storm, and i was in dire need of getting a part for the cadillac, and was in a super rush to get it fixed before it got dark, because i would have gotten towed if i left it there... and sure enough, finally ran into a trans am... after i had not seen one in the 2 months i had it. it was pouring down rain. "WHY MUST I FIND YOU NOW?!?!"

the rest of the yards are usually a waste of time looking for 3rd gen parts.

Mark_Hardware

Sweet good lookin out man I'll get down there asap!

azdzrtfox

Greetings Mark,

I live in Sierra Vitsa area (SE of Tucson, just west of Tombstone) I will be in Phoenix this weekend for National Guard drill. My folks live about a mile away from Metrocenter. I usually stay there. If you respond to this I may consider driving my stock carbed 86 Z28 up there so you can get eyes on what it should look like. My car isn't in the greatest shape either, but I have plenty of upgrades to ready to go when I have the time.

Dave

Mark_Hardware

Lol right on. I work Saturday, so if you're not busy Sunday, lets chill...

DRIVE2FAST

IM DOWN FOR THE "REGISTER CAR OUT OF MARICOPA COUNTY OPERATION" BUT I DONT KNOW ANYBODY WITH A PERMANENT ADDRESS OUT OF THE COUNTY UNFORTUNATELY.....:O(

Mark_Hardware

So, for those of you that don't know, the trunk of my car has been totally rhino-linered. Yeah, it's awesome. Not only did the cover the truck itself, but also the wiring and everything else. Sooo, I am left with this;


On top of that, the trunk latch that is in there is of course the wrong one. Now, I have to figure out what all these wires and connectors do... I have a part coming, I bought it on a whim off ebay. Turns out I think i may actually be the right part lol. It was listed as a "trunk motor." I don't think its actually a pull down unit persay... We'll see. I'll take a pic of the connectors, maybe someone can help tell me what is what. There's also a relay in there. One connection supposed to be a cutoff, so that when the trunk is open, the solenoids for the tonneau cover won't operate.
I'm pretty sure there is one connector that is actually missing a wire. Sigh.

Scootermunch

yeah man! i was going to rent out a shanty or shack up in globe or superior or something, and stay there on my days off. but switched jobs and not rolling in those kinds of benjamins now haha.

he rhino'd the wires?! wow!

Mark_Hardware

ok then. So, I bought a part on ebay, actually on a whim. It was listed as a "trunk motor"
Turns out, it is a pull down unit, and it is the correct one for my car, being as it's a late 91. Motor, bracket, gears, the whole kit and kaboodle. Not a bad score for 99 cents. hehehe
Now, comes the fun part. It seems the wiring in the car is set up for like 3 separate connections, whereas the unit has only one.
In the car, there's this;


And these connectors;


Now, this connector goes to this switch;


Which I know tells whether the trunk is open or not. Two things. One, this switch, and the corresponding connector, is intergrated into the pull down unit. Also, there seems to be a wire missing.

Three on one side, two on the other.

Here's the backside of the unit. That is the wires to the same switch I just pictured.


From what I can tell, this unit has all the connectors joined into one. Which is awesome, now I just have to figure out the pinout on that one connector... Any ideas?
Two more things. One, is something supposed to go here?



Also, this may sound dumb, but where the &*% is the button to pop the trunk?? I have traced wires all over the place, and I cannot find anywhere where there should be a switch. It's not in the center console;


Thats the one place where everything is actually intact and unmolested. There are no wires going to there. If I have to run my own wires, and install a switch that way, what wires would I use.
This car confuses me lol.

Oh and here's something, just for funsies;

Yup.

Beater79TA

There isn't one on the convertibles. The spot in the console where the switch would is located on the hardtop and t-top cars is used by the tonneau release button. The trunk on a convertible has to be opened using the key.

The pull down still works so you don't have to slam the trunk

Scootermunch

god, i love melted fuses. hell of a deal for 99 cents though!

FISTPUMP!!!!

burnout88

This website has all of the wiring diagrams and pinouts and body diagrams for a 1991 / 92 Camaros. Even a the convertible body diagram. You should find everything you need here to figure out that basket case of a Camaro you have taken on. Enjoy!!

http://www.fastgm.com/wiring/

drknow90rs_ss@y

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You can, however, add a trunk release solenoid. I did hundreds (Really, HUNDREDS!) of these cars in the late 80's and early 90's. (I was working for an aftermarket company, on-site at O'riely chevrolet in Tucson.)

DRIVE2FAST

HA ! THATS FUNNY . I GREW UP NEXT TO O'REILLY CHEV AND MY DAD BOUGHT A VETTE FROM THERE IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES. I WORKED AT THE TEXACO GAS STATION FOR A BIT. ALMOST BOUGHT THE FARM AT THE ABANDONED SAFEWAY AT BROADWAY / WILMOT. GOT IN A FIGHT ON HALLOWEEN AND LOST BIG TIME.

Mark_Hardware

Alright, well I have an idea then to add my own trunk release, kinda like what drknow is saying. As soon as I get *this* fun little batch of wiring figured out I'll get started on that.
When I plug in the connector that fits, (that is a five wire connector but only has two wires) the relay I showed you makes this god awful buzzing sound. That's kinda, weird...
Hey so, after you use the key or whatever to pop the trunk, then I'm assuming that switch is lifted, and the pull down unit moves up? Or does it move up after you actually lift the trunk lid open?

Scootermunch

just found this, thought i would post in here since most AZ'ers are in this thread...

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/pts/2271655022.html

pretty good lookin deal.

also, anyone have a good tire hookup? one of mine tore on the side. gonna blow soon most likely .

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Wow! That guy has no clue! Does not know what year/model it came off of! There is a difference.

Scootermunch

i figured he had no clue when i saw hes unloading it for 40.

Scootermunch

Just found this steal too. I keep finding great deals on cl, but none of anything I need. This guy is selling the stock radio too
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/2274459825.html

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Nice! And a nice price too!

mr305

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Well it has a top on it now but the frame itself is all messed up it takes me like ten minutes to fold down the top haha

mark if you need some stuff for your top maybe you can get some stuff off my old top i dont really know what you need

it was the blue convertible i cant believe there was one in there i got lucky

if you still need to get it registered i can tell you how to do it without emissions for the same price as regular tags cost and its not illegal so you will be legit if you wanna know how PM me

Mark_Hardware

pm sent

drknow90rs_ss@y

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[quote=mr305

if you still need to get it registered i can tell you how to do it without emissions for the same price as regular tags cost and its not illegal so you will be legit if you wanna know how PM me[/quote]


I want to know the trick too! Might need it for the next incarnation of the RS..... No EGR this time.

Mark_Hardware

Sigh. So, I got a new AC/Heater control unit. The rotary valve in mine was shot. Unfortunately, the supply line isn't getting any vacuum at all. So appearently the vacuum leak (I knew I had) is way worse than I thought.
Which is worse, an electrical wiring nightmare involving hacked up wiring and incomplete circuits, or a vacuum system nightmare involving hacked up lines and incomplete loops.
I'll get back to you on that one.

Scootermunch

i vote Vacuum 2011!

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Vacuum leaks are easier. To find them, start the motor, and then take an UN-LIT propane torch, turn it on and play the gas along your lines. The engine will rev or sound different when the gas is sucked into the leaking area. Dont move too fast. Veeeerrrryy slowly.

Mark_Hardware

Yeah, I've heard a few suggestions along those lines, actually. Propane sounds about the safest and easiest, though. Have to give that a shot.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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It's worked every time for me. All you have to do is get close to the leak and it will change the engine rpm's.

jmd

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vaccuum stuff is pretty easy to diagnose & replace. Glad I have a propane tank for the grill... good to see you're still making progress.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Mark, are you going to have the thing running for the central cruise?

Mark_Hardware

Not likely



EDIT:
Ok, so I just realized I already used that picture. Oh well, it still looks the same lol. Progress is crawling along.... Parts are slow in coming haha

DRIVE2FAST

CENTRAL CRUISE ?? WHEN ?? WHERE ??

drknow90rs_ss@y

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It is on april 9th. We will be meeting at the mall parking garage.

I will post up a thread asking who is coming sometime this week...

Scootermunch

which mall?

DRIVE2FAST

BLAST IT ..... MY CAR IS IN A MILLION PIECES....

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Thats the reason I keep more than one thirdgen; One is always running! (Well, that is the plan, anyways...)

Anyone remember the name of the mall?

DRIVE2FAST

ALL I HAVE THAT WORKS IS AN S-10 BLAZER........

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Mark, why did you have to remove the dash?

Is your car Maui blue? Not many of those made...

camarosrock1989

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I would like to make it, if its in PHX.. Please give details on location..
Thanks

Scootermunch

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...e-central.html

and we should be putting together the finer details soon. there is a link to the event in the thread for those details.

Mark_Hardware

Parts of it needed replaced anyways.
I needed to replace the heater core.
I needed to fix the HVAC blender box. Turns out it seems to actually be fine, for the most part.

And yes, it was like a turquoise color. No thanks lol

drknow90rs_ss@y

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The blender box is probably a vacuum leak... LOL!

Mark_Hardware

lol, I don't think so though... I put a vacuum pump on the pines going to the box. Diaphrams operate, doors move, and vacuum holds. A vacuum gauge on the supply line coming from the engine doesn't budge though. Ditto that with the vacuum line going from the carb to the vacuum advance on the distributor. I'll find it, one of these days lol