It looks like Steve Spohn may not come thru on his 1LE parts. Specifically, the caliper carriers.

Now, according to info. posted by another user, Auto Zone sells 1LE calipers WITH the carriers for $120 a pair. A few others are trying to confirm this.

Barry, since you've mentioned putting together 1LE kits, is this someting you have any inside info. on? The part is made by MORSE and part # is P4343.

Here's some pics for reference:

 

This appears to be a bust.

AndyZ28 bought a set of these calipers to confirm what they come with. His set doesn't have any carriers. In fact, it was also missing some other hardware that Morse states comes in the kit.

Looks like it's back to the drawing board on the carriers.

 

I want to know where an how Can I either get a new 1le or used, an convert my 9bwd. What ya need the darn caliper an the bracket for the 9 bolt, and some bolts an rotors. how much money we talking. I dont want to go buy a complete rear end an have no 10 bolt either. There is Some where that is selling 1le new calipers.. rotors..

 

Brandon,
The rears are an easy conversion. Calipers and rotors can be picked up most auto parts stores. The only hitch is locating the correct backing plates.

 

Just need to find a place that makes the backing plates huh. Im sure that is possible somehow. Thanks for the info. Time to find those plates.

 

Bret, there are often times people pirate parts from boxes and take back the boxes with stuff missing, most of the counter guys (especially at places like Auto-Zoo and such) dont know or dont care about missing parts.

Just a thought.

Branden, the backing plates may be available from the dealer. Last I checked they were, but that was a while ago.

 

Chris,
It seems a slight rift has occured over this on the suspension board. Apparently someone got lucky and his set of Morse calipers did indeed include the carriers.

AndyZ28 and someone else then ordered the "loaded" calipers from AZ. Their sets however didn't have the carriers. Andy then kind of implied the original poster was passing along mis-information.

The latest information directly from Morse is that at one point they were able to get the carriers from GM, so they made them available while they could. Therefore, apparently some of the caliper kits DO have the carriers and the rest don't. If you order them thru Auto Zone you most likely won't get the carriers. But, if by chance your local AZ happens to have an old set on the shelf, then you could get lucky.

 

I see... well that blows.

What about the spindles? The plan just to hack up the factory spindle?

<--- would love to have those brakes on my vert to match the nice big rears

 

Yep, that's the plan. Pick up a spare set of spindles and cut and tap them to accpet the 1LE set up.

 

Don showed me his LS1 rear disc brakes he has on a 9 bolt on his car. And the swap does not seem to bad, and I would not have to search for a bracket as 1le's. So I think in my brake future i will give those a try when time comes an See about Don doing the swap for me.

Good luck with those fronts every body...

 

Sorry for the late reply Brett. I've got a line on calipers that include the carrier. I've been trying to get a current price and availability for about 3 weeks now. I was out on vacation. I have a spare set on my shelf right now but that is the only one I have. next is the issue of the bracket. The GM ones are way to expensive and I got a guy that will only make me 10 sets. last I checked the prices were getting to within a few hundred of the SS front kit ($875 or something like that). I can get all the parts but it's a timing issue as usual. I'll front the cash for a few sets of calipers but I have to have SERIOUS buyers.

BTW.....they work great even on my almost stock RS

let me know what's up and I'll help out as much as I can.

Barry F

 

Barry,
I'm definitely interested in a set of front calipers, carriers and brackets. I've been spending $$$ like a drunken sailor lately, so more toward the end of Summer or Fall is a realistic time-frame for me. The next time I'm due for front brakes, I'd like to install the 1lE set-up.

Anything you could put together would be great.

Steve Spohn is kind of MIA. He's not responding to posts and e-mails about the carriers he was having made. At this point I'd say his deal isn't gonna happen.

 

My dad will probably kill me for saying this, but stay tuned guys... Dont buy anything yet.

 

Bret;
Where are you guys getting the rotors?

[AndyZ28 and someone else then ordered the "loaded" calipers from AZ. Their sets however didn't have the carriers. Andy then kind of implied the original poster was passing along mis-information.]

Seems to me this guy is really a "butt" He fashions himself as "mr. 1le" complains about everyone else posting misinformation and stops just short of calling people liars.

Here's what I'm putting on mine and he says it can't be done.[IMG]_hr_DCP_0363.jpg[/IMG]

Well, that didn't work ....

 

Kevin

I think your dad has gone over to the dark side with that project.


Jerry


P.S. He sent me pictures very good job Don. I will order a set from him when get them done.

 

Ok here's the pic:

 

Don,
I already have a set of new 1LE rotors I picked up on eBay.

I take it those are 4th gen. parts you're planning to use?

I posted on the brake board about using 4th gen. PBR calipers but AndyZ28 chimed in and said 4th gens don't have PBR calipers. I haven't seen the 4th gen. brakes up close so I don't know. My guess is that the 4th gens. have PBR's OR something similar.

I'd like to hear more about your planned set-up Don.

 

I know more about it, but I aint sayin!

Kevin, Don... I guess they worked? Gotta love it!

Don, I already have rotors. Good ones too. Those are something you can pick up just about anywhere, I would only recommend those planning on this stay AWAY from the chinese stuff.

 

and they show some cross drilled called Roto-tech. Then there is a place called Raceconcepts believe they are in Orange county would either of the 2 brands be any good?

 

I can get PBR 2 pistons (1LE style) calipers all day long. I'll go ppick up another set just to make sure they are complete. Last set I got had the carrier bracket and EXCELLENT PBR semi met pads. I used to have the Corvette SS guys call me all the time for these pads.

on Rotors, max is correct. the Chinese rotors are ****. they have no quality control and the raw materials they use are poor. I only use the USA made rotors.

Barry F

 

The rotors I scored are from a guy in Riverside doing business as "Hawk's Racing". He assures full quality control. I paid $149 for two slotted 1LE rotors.

Do a search on eBay for $RP and you'll find this guy's auctions. He also has deals on engine parts.

Barry, if you can get 1LE PBR calipers WITH carriers, that would be great. Steve Spohn should have the brackets in stock. Either he's machining them himself or he has a source. They're not listed on his web site but he told me to call him if I want a set. I was going to wait till his carrier deal came thru, but as stated before it looks like that's a bust.

 

I've seen those slotted rotors on ebay. I really don't think they are US made rotors. I deal with overseas parts all day long and for him to make a profit his cost would have to be at least $50 each. Who knows

I'll score a set of PBR's and find out what the deal is. The have to get a set of cores to throw at them before I do that.

L.U.K.

Barry

 

His packaging could have been better but the rotors look pretty good to me. I can bring them to the next meeting or to Dwayne's if anyone wants to check them out.

That would be great Barry. Thanks!

 

Nope, they're not but I'll keep you posted.
Don>>>

 

Hmmmm, okay then my next guess would like to be Corvette -BUT- based on Jerry's "darkside" comment and Chris' "inside info." those are Mustang parts!

 

I don't know about that, they say PBR right on them.

Don>>>

 

as far as I can tell they don't look like Chevy but I can be wrong. Look more to be like Ford Taurus SHO or something like that. What the hell Don? Some big secret project like the stealth B1? Look good though.

Barryf

 

Don,
The Mustang Cobra's are suppossed to be using PBR calipers. I know people have asked about it on the brake/suspension board but IIRC AndyZ28 said they won't work.

They don't look like GM parts in your pic.

 

What! 4th gens don't have PBRs. As you know, I have a 4th gen, tell him they do, If he wants evidence I'll post my SSs caliper pictures. They are PBR, they are embossed with the logo.

 

Thank you George! I'll definitely pass this along to AndyZ28.

 

Bret:
Don't waste your time as he knows it all and will probably infer that you are a liar or don't know what you are talking about.

Frankly, I don't care what anybody wants to call these PBR calipers as long as they work on our cars that's good enough for me.
Don>>>

 

No s**t Don. what ever works is great. So what did they come off of? are they a readily available production car? Looks like you used the standard 12" rotor and then fabbed a bracket to hang them on.


OK.....here is the deal...

I got a hold of the caliper rebuilder and the PBR 1LE's that I can get include, aluminum hydraulic part, carrier cage, PBR semi-met pads. what is called a loaded caliper ready to bolt on. Last set I got were NEW..NEW..NEW. not rebuilt but that can change.

they are $150 each side plus $70 core (but I send in the single pistons as core I think). Interested? I can get 20 sets right now

Barry F

 

Let's see, I'm gonna do some quick math here. Steve Spohn WAS asking $75 each for the carriers and Auto Zone sells a pair of calipers for $120. Then throw in the pads and you're at $150+ per side. So, that's not a bad price Barry for complete calipers.

The timing kinda stinks for me at the moment though. I've got $$$ committed to some other things right now and dropping an extra $300 could be painful.

 

Hey Brett.....whatever. I'm gonna snap up 4-5 sets as I have 3 guys from my club that are pretty firm on getting these. I can always get ride of them. I may even make the kits up complete and unload them.

 

I talked to Baer a few weeks ago about their 12" Sport kit. They told me it had little in common with the 1LE kit. It basically used ZR1 rotors with 94+ Cobra calipers. They said pads from the cobra or ZR1 will work.

 

Barry,
Is this a deal you will be able to get on a continual basis -OR- is it a "get them while you can" thing?

 

The company I deal with has complete 20 sets now. As for them I have no idea if they will phase them out or keep replenishing stock. I would assume that they will keep getting them so your safe for awhile. I have a spare set at home for my car in case so I'll buy whatever people need. I'm not opposed to getting 5 sets as long as I can unload them in a reasonable time frame.

 

Not that I'm picking on the price (I know these calipers arent cheap, never were), but thats $440 just for calipers, unless you have some way around the $70 core charges. I'll have to think about that one for a bit.

 

max...

I can get around the core with putting single piston cals in the box but sometimes they check for exact cores.

 

do the 1LE brakes widen the track width like the Baer brakes?

 

No, they don't. Since the 1LE's were a factory option they don't upset the wheel offset like the Baer kits do.

 

Yea Im not sure about dumping single piston cores in there instead. I used to sell parts, there were times where the warehouse rep checked the box, and believe me he knew what was supposed to be in there. We got dinged once on a core charge, wasnt funny.