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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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Are these worth getting?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

More importantly are they legal ?A $599.00 price tag doesn't seem bad.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

THose are awesome looking, ask them for out of the box flow numbers.

What a price, regardless of quality.

That one head they show is a Vortec intake pattern.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Originally Posted by thegooseman
More importantly are they legal ?A $599.00 price tag doesn't seem bad.
I looked them over last year at Super Chevy Atlanta. The heads look like a knock off of the pro action then pro top line and now RH'S heads. The heads are made in China and are a mix of a Vortec and a std sbc head. The heads have a tall intake port like a Vortec and both bolt patterns, the exhaust has big square ports like an old stock iron head and no heat passage or egr port.

Skip White has posted flow numbers for the 210s at
Int 240 at .500
Ex 152 at .500

And this is a quote from him

"We also flow tested the PC 190cc heads, and the flow numbers were terrible in every range. The 190's would only be suitable on a 305 or smaller engine in our opinion. We didn't even waste the time dyno testing them on our 350 engine."

Bottom line is it's a China knock off good for street rod, show car or any car that will not be driven much and not needed to make good power.

Jerry
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Originally Posted by JERRYWHO
and no heat passage or egr port.



Jerry
I got a reply from the guy saying they are legal but he might just be trying to make a sale. Then I asked him for the flow numbers. I wonder what he will say on that.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Well he said he didn't have any flow #'s. Either way wouldn't these be better than stock corvette heads? I'm on a low budget build and I just want better than stock at this point.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Originally Posted by thegooseman
Well he said he didn't have any flow #'s. Either way wouldn't these be better than stock corvette heads? I'm on a low budget build and I just want better than stock at this point.
Like Jerry was saying, they do not have exhaust passage for EGR (so not legal) they have high ports , so a regular manifold won't work, so no, they are not better than 'vette heads.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Where are the egr ports on the heads? Are they hard to see in pics? What should I look for in the pics. I've been looking around on ebay and I dont want to hassle you guys every time I see something I think might be worth getting.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Originally Posted by thegooseman
Where are the egr ports on the heads? Are they hard to see in pics? What should I look for in the pics. I've been looking around on ebay and I dont want to hassle you guys every time I see something I think might be worth getting.
Look at these two gaskets:

The small hole in the center of the 2nd one is where the exhaust to the EGR goes.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku



http://store.summitracing.com/partde...1&autoview=sku
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Re: Are these worth getting?

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
Look at these two gaskets:

The small hole in the center of the 2nd one is where the exhaust to the EGR goes.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku



http://store.summitracing.com/partde...1&autoview=sku

Ah ha, thanks Don
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