I Believe !!!!!!!
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From: Enterprise, Alabama
Car: 90 RS
Engine: LO3
I Believe !!!!!!!
I've had my 1990 Camaro since new and it has 78K Miles on it. I notice that as the years accumulated so did the squeaks and rattles.
I always heard about SFC 's but didn't believe that a couple pieces of metal can make a difference and said that maybe one day I would install some SFC but always said "maybe next year". Well this was the year and "WOW"
What have I been waiting for?
I installed some Hotchkis "SFC", a Edelbrock strut brace and new KYB shock all around. What a difference. I can now drive the car without blasting the stereo to drown out the squeaks and rattles (I got a hard top I could imagine what those poor T-Top and convertables go through). This is the best money I've ever spend for this car. " I Believe" :hail: Bottom line: If you own a 3rd Gen Fbody you need to invest in some SFC and strut brace. You will not regret the investment and won't be embarass to carry passengers because they think the car is falling apart every time you hit a pebble on the road. We all like to have our cars look good but sometimes it better to make our cars sound and perform better. P.S. GM should be ashame for giving us such a weak chassis
I always heard about SFC 's but didn't believe that a couple pieces of metal can make a difference and said that maybe one day I would install some SFC but always said "maybe next year". Well this was the year and "WOW"
What have I been waiting for?
I installed some Hotchkis "SFC", a Edelbrock strut brace and new KYB shock all around. What a difference. I can now drive the car without blasting the stereo to drown out the squeaks and rattles (I got a hard top I could imagine what those poor T-Top and convertables go through). This is the best money I've ever spend for this car. " I Believe" :hail: Bottom line: If you own a 3rd Gen Fbody you need to invest in some SFC and strut brace. You will not regret the investment and won't be embarass to carry passengers because they think the car is falling apart every time you hit a pebble on the road. We all like to have our cars look good but sometimes it better to make our cars sound and perform better. P.S. GM should be ashame for giving us such a weak chassis
Last edited by Tony90RS; May 13, 2003 at 12:33 AM.
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From: Marion, Indiana, USA
Car: 85 Camaro
Engine: 350 Carbed
Transmission: Stock 700r4
GO with the weld it. If for some reason you get the bolt in also have then welded. Being welded makes them stronger. The bolt holes on the bolt ins will "wallow" (sp?) them selfs loose.
That is the next thing to do on my car!
-Terry-
That is the next thing to do on my car!
-Terry-
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From: Enterprise, Alabama
Car: 90 RS
Engine: LO3
It really does not matter who makes the SFC, they are all intended to do one thing, "provide much needed stiffnest" to our weak chassis. I too highly recommend the weld on. The stiffer the better. I also highly recommend the "strut brace" , this also works wonders and is a must have. All combined will set you off about $300 and what ever it cost in your area to have them welded on. But the reward is a car that feels solid, sharper on curves, and much less squeaks and rattles.
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From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
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Yep, I went with Global West's version, weld-ins. Not a mod, a necessity.
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spohn's were pretty easy to install, only 5 hours.
i think i am going to get the alstons bolts in ones and just weld them in, they seem to support the inner rails. i think the spohn's and alstons dont even interfer with each other.
i think i am going to get the alstons bolts in ones and just weld them in, they seem to support the inner rails. i think the spohn's and alstons dont even interfer with each other.
i bought some sfc's last yr havnt installed them yet cause my exhaust is in the way and havnt felt like choppin it up right now. whats the best thing to do. You know maybe the reason why i hate my springs so much cause i think they r too stiff is just cause i need to install my sfc's. Cause the body is just prolly flexin so much cause the springs r soo stiff.
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From: Enterprise, Alabama
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Install them NOW
You don't what your missing (squeaks, rattles, flex).. I did my hotchkis without chopping. I just had to bent the pipe going to the Cat. The bent was very minimal and no loss was notice. I will eventually put headers on so this will take care of any constriction I did. Once you have them install you are going to wonder why you waited so long.
Your shocks and springs will then be able to do their jobs better because you won't have the flex of a pancake chassis anymore.
You don't what your missing (squeaks, rattles, flex).. I did my hotchkis without chopping. I just had to bent the pipe going to the Cat. The bent was very minimal and no loss was notice. I will eventually put headers on so this will take care of any constriction I did. Once you have them install you are going to wonder why you waited so long.
Your shocks and springs will then be able to do their jobs better because you won't have the flex of a pancake chassis anymore. yeh i really want to install them i think i will b4 i put in my new lca's and relocation brackets all that stuff. Just that i have edelbrock headers and wonderin the best way to move them so they dont rub.
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From: Enterprise, Alabama
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I had the car a a ramp type lift which had the car weight on the wheels. The only problem I see with having the weight of the car on the frame is if you do not have it level then you will weld the brace on an unlevel car. Remember this car's chassis is like a big piece of thin plywood. If you lift one corner the other end will not move until it reaches it's end of bent point. So make sure the car is level, I would not recommend doing it with car jacked up on one end or anything like that. The one on the driver side is very easy since it's all clear so do that one first and get it out of the way. The passenger side is the one you will be dealing with the clearance problem. Good luck....
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seems sfc's quieted everyone's rattles but mine?
i've had spohn sfc's on my car for about a year now and am still suffering from major door & hatch rattles... conversation on a quiet evening cruise is not on option in my car... help?
i've had spohn sfc's on my car for about a year now and am still suffering from major door & hatch rattles... conversation on a quiet evening cruise is not on option in my car... help? Thread Starter
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From: Enterprise, Alabama
Car: 90 RS
Engine: LO3
I first installed an edelbrock tower brace on my car and I immediately notice the difference. I then installed a set of Hotchkins SFC, KYB shocks and "suspension technique" lower springs. It did wonders to my car. I feel like I driving a totally new car. I just got in my wonder bar so that should stiffin up the front end up some more. Every car is different and you may want to go around your car with a can of silicone spray and get into those nicks and crannies, I would also recommend the tower brace and if you really want to get serious install another set of SFC's ,, I understand that the Alston from TDS can be install in conjuction with the other SFC. This may be over kill but if this doesn't stiffin it up nothing will. Or you can go the cheaper way and upgrade you stereo or invest in some earplugs
Either way blame it on the General for our weak chassis....
Either way blame it on the General for our weak chassis....







