Will 19" rims fit an '88
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Will 19" rims fit an '88
I want to completly fill the wheel wells with the largest, widest wheel/tire package I can get in some type of a 5 spoke pattern wheel....but no larger than 19" rear...18" front...with 1" lowered springs...Anyone have info about the maximum width..or needed offset to put 19/18s on my vert with a stock width rear end??
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Seen that combo on a '55 chevy featured in HOT ROD magazine and they looked amazing.....18x8 front and 19x 10 rear custom CRAGAR SSs..I definately don't want to look like an urban Escalade!..more like the look of the 19" front...21" rears that come stock on a Plymouth Prowler only not quite so flashy. The fronts also have a tighter clearance than the rears.....the largest size that will fit the rear will rub when turning on the front......I found that out the hard way a few years ago.
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go with same size front to back or it looks silly. our cars weren't designed for that type of wheel combination. as for widths.
slp ran 9.5's all around but you comprimise lowering. if you want a decent lowering and all around everything else a 8/10 combo is very good. many members have had great success with 9-9.5 in the rear as well. i've see up to 11 in the rear work however it isn't in the wheel well and looks out of place without major inner fender modification and proper backspacing.
however it all depends on what you want but i wouldn't go any wider then 9.5 front and 11 rear understanding this limits you in certain areas. if you want the widest possible with no restrictions a 8/10 combo is best.
slp ran 9.5's all around but you comprimise lowering. if you want a decent lowering and all around everything else a 8/10 combo is very good. many members have had great success with 9-9.5 in the rear as well. i've see up to 11 in the rear work however it isn't in the wheel well and looks out of place without major inner fender modification and proper backspacing.
however it all depends on what you want but i wouldn't go any wider then 9.5 front and 11 rear understanding this limits you in certain areas. if you want the widest possible with no restrictions a 8/10 combo is best.
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Kandied91z, Thank You for the information. Your car is incredible! Very beautiful color, and your rims look great! The 8" / 10" width package you speak of is probably the set up I'm going to go with. are there any back-spacing issues I need to be concerned with or will a wheel hub, centered in the wheel, fit correctly, and are you talking about 18" or 19" wheels? I have seen a few 18" / 19" wheel combinations ...the best looking, because of the custom CRAGAR SSs was on the shoe box Chevy I mentioned....but I also saw a few, in person, on HOT ROD power tour a few years ago. You can not tell the rear rims are 1" larger when they are on the car..the rears just look "beefier" ..somehow...and it's not till you read the tire size that you realize they are two diferent sizes. This effect only works on the 18" / 19" combo because it is much more apparent on 16" / 17" and smaller sizes. Although the the 14" Centerlines / 245-n60 front and the 15" Centerlines / 275-n 50 rears I put on my '83 Camaro 20 years ago had the same effect, and the 15" n50s had the same rotation as my stock 14s so my speedometer was right on...this was before it was so easy to recalibrate speedometers.
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About the 14" / 15" wheels...........it's not that I have strange taste in wheels lol... it's just that the biggest custom wheels readily available in '84 were 15"s...anything bigger was a truck rim. And the cars I am seeing on here, after being out of car building for a lot of years...are far better..and faster ( it was VERY VERY rare to hear of a street driven car that got into the 10s....at least in Chicago)..than anything you seen on the street back then. I'm blown away at the talent, and tastefullness shown on some of the cars on this site.
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first off let me thank you for the kind words....
as far as the 8/10 front rear width setup i prefer it over all else because it allows you to have the "widest" wheel in the stock location. i mean this by stating you can virtually do anything necessary you want with the suspension with no complications as well as have freedom from outer fender/quarter rubbing. the 10" rear with the right backspacing requires a slight hammering on the inner fender of the rear quarter but it isn't anything severe and it's well worth the results. i only came across this combo after running a few different variations with the car being 8" all around stock, 9.5" all around, 9.5/10.5"vette setup all around and then finally trying 8/10.
for a road course i really believe having equally match size wheels is more of a benefit for numberous reasons but for the common street/strip/weekend cruiser the 8/10 setup works absolutely perfect. even going with something smaller like a 9 or 9.5 is also really nice in the rear and with the proper backspacing you wouldn't even need to massage the inner fender of the rear quarter to make it work.
even though i like my 8/10 combo you have to understand something that was very important to me. after running the various combinations on my car with alot of trial and effort i grew very tired of my suspension limits as well as fender rubbing so it was important that the wheels filled the wheel wells but never came past the tops of the fenders. doing so with the right combination not only looks alot better but the car works just as well on the street if not better then too wide of tire.
now to talk abit about your staggered sizes i have to agree that on some cars they fit the build and can really look nice however i have yet to see a thirdgen that it fits doing so and i'll show you an example of why! you can clearly see that the design of the body doesn't call for such an offset...it may look alright parked which i still don't agree with but as soon as you start rolling it looks out of place. however it's just my opinion....
as far as the 8/10 front rear width setup i prefer it over all else because it allows you to have the "widest" wheel in the stock location. i mean this by stating you can virtually do anything necessary you want with the suspension with no complications as well as have freedom from outer fender/quarter rubbing. the 10" rear with the right backspacing requires a slight hammering on the inner fender of the rear quarter but it isn't anything severe and it's well worth the results. i only came across this combo after running a few different variations with the car being 8" all around stock, 9.5" all around, 9.5/10.5"vette setup all around and then finally trying 8/10.
for a road course i really believe having equally match size wheels is more of a benefit for numberous reasons but for the common street/strip/weekend cruiser the 8/10 setup works absolutely perfect. even going with something smaller like a 9 or 9.5 is also really nice in the rear and with the proper backspacing you wouldn't even need to massage the inner fender of the rear quarter to make it work.
even though i like my 8/10 combo you have to understand something that was very important to me. after running the various combinations on my car with alot of trial and effort i grew very tired of my suspension limits as well as fender rubbing so it was important that the wheels filled the wheel wells but never came past the tops of the fenders. doing so with the right combination not only looks alot better but the car works just as well on the street if not better then too wide of tire.
now to talk abit about your staggered sizes i have to agree that on some cars they fit the build and can really look nice however i have yet to see a thirdgen that it fits doing so and i'll show you an example of why! you can clearly see that the design of the body doesn't call for such an offset...it may look alright parked which i still don't agree with but as soon as you start rolling it looks out of place. however it's just my opinion....
now lets view the proper same size front rear setup.........it may just be my own opinion but it looks 100% nicer when the fronts match the rear in height. this car looks so much better and you don't even have to know what the rim design looks like.
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YUCK! lol...I think you have just converted me! that purple car is awful!!!!!!!!!....and the ride height is ( wretch)! Thanks for the pics you just saved me a lot of money..because if my car looked like that I would have taken off the wheels as soon as I took one look! If I ever run into you at a show or Power Tour ...dinner...and drinks are on me! TY!
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....and the induced under- steer caused by the different wheel sizes has been a worry for me all along. Have you seen any 19" / 19" wheels on a third gen yet ..I know 20s would look too "bling" ..I'm trying to think outside the box here and try some innovative features but they have to be an improvement on conventional styling....not the train wreck that plum car looks like....
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Great car Kandied,
Maybe I missed it while reading thru but can you post your latest wheels make and specs. Also the tires sizes.
They'll be going on a silver 91 RS.
Doesn't have to be those exact rims but I gotta get those exact specs. It's perfect. Also is your's lowered and how much?
Thanks.
Maybe I missed it while reading thru but can you post your latest wheels make and specs. Also the tires sizes.
They'll be going on a silver 91 RS.
Doesn't have to be those exact rims but I gotta get those exact specs. It's perfect. Also is your's lowered and how much?
Thanks.
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Actually I just decided...I'm going for a set of these And I'm pretty sure these are 18" / 19"
What does everybody think of these? BTW the gold GFX on my car were painted over body color the day after we bought it, new, and the interior is going to be 4th gen black leather.
What does everybody think of these? BTW the gold GFX on my car were painted over body color the day after we bought it, new, and the interior is going to be 4th gen black leather. Last edited by Mark P.; Apr 18, 2004 at 07:39 PM.
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its a bad angle, they look the same size to me..
I think you will be much happier with yourself with the same size front and rear.. and the 57.. honestly I think thats horrible.. a 57 should be stock looking.. then again that just my opinion but to me thats just screwing up a classic..
I think you will be much happier with yourself with the same size front and rear.. and the 57.. honestly I think thats horrible.. a 57 should be stock looking.. then again that just my opinion but to me thats just screwing up a classic.. Thread Starter
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That's right! They do look the same size! But check the measurment from the top of the rim to the top of the wheel well. front to back....and the staggered sizes give the car a 1/2" lower stance in the front........very subtle.....About the '57...to each their own........I think stock '57s are a waste of a good hot rod. And a well done shoe box rod can bring double the price of a stocker. Thats the beauty of Hot Rodding..there is room for every taste..as long as the car is well done......BTW the car is by Boyd Coddington, known for some of the most tastfully done rods ever built, and just because his name is on it I'm pretty sure 100k couldn't buy it. Horrible? Oh well ..I did ask for opinions didn't I? Thank you for taking the trouble to respond.
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The wheels on the 'vette are Boyd's smoothies. not sure what size but 20 X 10, $452.95 each, 20 X 8 1/2, $441.95, 18 X 10, $355.95, 18 X 8 $342.95 each, built to your custom specs for back-spacing, off-set, bolt pattern ect. 6 weeks delivery, at newstalgiawheel.com....No listing for 19"s hmmmmmmm..could those rear wheels be 20s??? they sure look bigger than 18s...if they are 20s the fronts must be the same size...2" would be more noticable. then again...maybe not.....
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I dunno, I can't honestly tell if they are diff sizes from the pic, the front on n angle and the wheels r turned.. as far as the distance between the wheels and the gap between the lip and tires looks the same to me.. the size does look really good on the vette.. not sure I like the rims themselves.. but its not mine
and with the amount of points I collected on my license it never legally will be.. haha.. sorry for soundin like a d1ckhead.. sometimes i come across like that.. didn't mean to.. IMHO tho I don't think diff size wheels look right on a third gen f-car.. just doesn't seem to go with the body style.. it would look alright with some skinnys up front with the rear jacked way up with some huge tires on em but that kinda went out in the 70's.. sorry for the opinions.. I thought thats what u were lookin for
but look at the purple car.. it just doesn't look right.. i dunno maybe its just me.. but anyway to each his own
and with the amount of points I collected on my license it never legally will be.. haha.. sorry for soundin like a d1ckhead.. sometimes i come across like that.. didn't mean to.. IMHO tho I don't think diff size wheels look right on a third gen f-car.. just doesn't seem to go with the body style.. it would look alright with some skinnys up front with the rear jacked way up with some huge tires on em but that kinda went out in the 70's.. sorry for the opinions.. I thought thats what u were lookin for
but look at the purple car.. it just doesn't look right.. i dunno maybe its just me.. but anyway to each his own Supreme Member
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oh and if you know the owner of the vette let me know, I'll give ya address for him to sell the stockers..
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It's all good 89Rs...I did mean the TY. A few more opinions like yours and I will sh$t can the staggered size idea. I finally have the money to build my ride the way I've always wanted it and now I can't make up my mind about anything! LOL...The Boyd Smoothies closly imitate CRAGAR SSs ..but the custom CRAGARS in tall sizes are VERY EXPENSIVE! I want to combine components of old school, (Early '70s 350 {LT1???}, SS style wheels), Traditional, ( bone stock body in original color...no scoops...yes I know I will have to mill the stealthram...no stripes ) and Modern,( 18", 19", or 20" wheels, AFR heads with Holley StealthRam MPFI, and 4th gen interior) ..and I want the ride heigth as low as possible, ( maybe air bag suspension ) and I would love to put an independant rear suspension under it. 1 G plus on the skid pad would be awesome. Please..no offense Kandied..I love your car..but I don't want to compete with cars like yours...I want to blow them away. Big goals huh? Truth is I'd be honored to park next to yours and just not be embarased.
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Re: sweet...!
Originally posted by GenghisJohn
Great car Kandied,
Maybe I missed it while reading thru but can you post your latest wheels make and specs. Also the tires sizes.
They'll be going on a silver 91 RS.
Doesn't have to be those exact rims but I gotta get those exact specs. It's perfect. Also is your's lowered and how much?
Thanks.
Great car Kandied,
Maybe I missed it while reading thru but can you post your latest wheels make and specs. Also the tires sizes.
They'll be going on a silver 91 RS.
Doesn't have to be those exact rims but I gotta get those exact specs. It's perfect. Also is your's lowered and how much?
Thanks.
i'm going to say it again the c5 vette and even c6 have bodies built for staggered sizes that 20/19 combo is fit for the vette. a staggered size on a thirdgen does not look right but we won't get into it anymore.
none taken, however if you plan to "blow" cars like mine away you had better up the ante alot considering everything you've done has been done and is on cars like mine and the many others you'll run across. how much further can you possibly take it? maybe put a spin on it but there isn't much more that can be done. as far as 19's i'm sure you've already seen the pictures in the appearance section that it's been done and 20's is a thing of the past. even your 18/20 combos have been done for a few years now.
Kandied..I love your car..but I don't want to compete with cars like yours...I want to blow them away. Big goals huh? Truth is I'd be honored to park next to yours and just not be embarased.
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GenghisJohn the wheels can be found here www.bozeforged.com they are the stinger model in full show polish.
they are 18x8 and 18x10 running 4.75 front and 6.75 rear. the tires are 245/40/18 toyo proxie t1-s and 285/35/18 toyo proxie t1-s. i run a 295/35/18 bfg radial at the track.
the lowering you see in the pick is basically a eibach pro-kit lowering spring in the rear. i was running custom coilovers in the front so the lowering changes from time to time. it will all soon be replaced by adjustable suspension which is why i went with the wheel sizes i did. i'm very happy with them.
they are 18x8 and 18x10 running 4.75 front and 6.75 rear. the tires are 245/40/18 toyo proxie t1-s and 285/35/18 toyo proxie t1-s. i run a 295/35/18 bfg radial at the track.
the lowering you see in the pick is basically a eibach pro-kit lowering spring in the rear. i was running custom coilovers in the front so the lowering changes from time to time. it will all soon be replaced by adjustable suspension which is why i went with the wheel sizes i did. i'm very happy with them.
Just adding a few thoughts here...
The Japanese Camaro with carbon fiber heat extractor hood (GraceCo I think?) has 17" front and 18" rear I believe. All C5 Vettes come with that combo from the factory as far as I know, but it was designed for it.
The Grace Co car looks pretty good, but there aren't any good side pictures of it. I thought about going this route with the wheels too, but have decided against it in the end. That purple car really just sets it in stone for me.
The Japanese Camaro with carbon fiber heat extractor hood (GraceCo I think?) has 17" front and 18" rear I believe. All C5 Vettes come with that combo from the factory as far as I know, but it was designed for it.
The Grace Co car looks pretty good, but there aren't any good side pictures of it. I thought about going this route with the wheels too, but have decided against it in the end. That purple car really just sets it in stone for me.
guys the car isn't purple...it's dark metallic red! it's a very nice car and although to me personally the different wheel size is out of place i'm sure the owner likes them alot.
this type of picture is the only way staggered sizes look ok on our cars.........but again it's just my opinion.
this type of picture is the only way staggered sizes look ok on our cars.........but again it's just my opinion.
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I've been thinking about this ( obsessing??) all week at work. I'm a contractor currently working out of state..hence the time gaps in my replies. I agree 20s are a passing fad. I'm feeling like the smoothies are too flashy..and the angular styling of the car will probably just compete with a retro style wheel and look out of place.....You're right Kandied. So many different things have been tried with 3rd gens ...it would be foolish to think I could come up with a truly original look that would somehow be an improvement over current 3rd gen styling trends. Thanks so much for everyone's imput...it has brought me back to earth on my goals for this build. On my way home today, I was south-bound on I 65 between Louisville and Elizabethtown Ky and I saw a third gen vert heading north. It was really sharp! it was a light tan or eggshell color, 4th gen SS hood....anyone know if this car's owner is a member here?...Kandied is that your F350 dually in the background of your pic? If it is we have very similar taste in vehicles....I drive a 2001 4 door F350 diesel dually...I'm shelving the wheel choice for now..maybe some time will straighten out my head a little better on a choice..I sure hope so!!!
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Pretty sure these are different size wheels....anyway this is very close to the look (stance) I'm after. Not drag race car....more like an IMSA privateer, or an original International Race of Champions Camaro, with larger diameter, modern wheels. Those wheel flares are really well done huh? I wonder if they look that good from the rear. This look is almost impossible to describe in words..I'm glad I finally found a pic...Thanks z_power for posting it on another thread! I wonder if anyone makes a 50 or 60 series tire for 18" rims, that would accomplish what I want for the back I think.
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I welcome all opinions... yours too ME Liegh...but I disagree that any of this is BS. I like to listen to as many opinions on a subject as possible, then do my own research. In this way I have come up with many fresh ideas. "Outside the box " thinking has made me very successful in business, and I'm just using some of the same principles here. I have a fairly original concept in my mind of how I want my car to look. As beautiful as Kandied's car is...I've seen too many done the same way...don't get me wrong ..I love the car, and his is perhaps the highest quality build Ive seen out side a World of Wheels show....but it's just not ....um..mean looking enough for me...I don't want pro touring, and I dont want a Drag car look either..Road Racers are as close as I can come to describing it. A hybrid street legal IMSA car (without the wheel flares) is really close. Or a 3rd gen west coast canyon racer / show car is too.....( no NOT a tuner car) Anyway, I'm going to build it and I'll post some pics as I go along... Now what I'd really like is some info on 3rd gen wheel fitment...Like the title says..Does anyone know the largest 19" wheel, (width, offset, etc. ) that will fit in the rear wheel wells of an '88 Camaro with a stock width rear end? Or does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes an 18" tire with a higher side wall than a 40 series? I haven't purchased a rear end for the car yet so a bit narrower than stock is an option. I definitely don't want to tub it.
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I have 19" wheels on the car, and if you are planning on dropping the car after you install them....
2 words
Industrial grinder
I took it to the front, rear and had to spend the better time of the afternoon making sure the thing didn't rub......
They are 8" wide in the front, 9" in the back
The fronts rubbed when going over bumps and when i tried turning, i mean bad rubbing......
The back rubbed over bumps
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Industrial grinder
I took it to the front, rear and had to spend the better time of the afternoon making sure the thing didn't rub......
They are 8" wide in the front, 9" in the back
The fronts rubbed when going over bumps and when i tried turning, i mean bad rubbing......
The back rubbed over bumps
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Thanks for the info FLYINLOW..grinding is exactly what I want to avoid. Sweet car. I love the grill. I love the hood, and although I generally don't like rear wing spoilers, It's very well done on your car. I love the fact that you are packing some impressive HP. Change to a two stage 150/300 shot and your talking rear wheel HP that can get you mid 10s, But what you are running is PLENTY healthy. Your wheels are beautiful although I think I would like 18" fronts better. Just a personal preferance. I love the custom touch the heat extraction vents give your RS. Are those from a 2nd gen TA? I bet those would work perfectly as a cold air intake source for a twin turbo set up..... Cayse...any Idea where I might try to search for a pic of the Japanese Camaro you mentioned? I'd like to see it. it sounds like it may be a similar concept to mine. What did you think of the car when you saw it...is it worth my time to search out the photo?
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Thanks for the compliments
The heat extractor vents are from a 2nd Gen Camaro
A 19/18 combo looks good, check out the new corvette "C6", it has that combo and it looks great, that's part of the reason i first looked into 19" wheels.....
The heat extractor vents are from a 2nd Gen Camaro
A 19/18 combo looks good, check out the new corvette "C6", it has that combo and it looks great, that's part of the reason i first looked into 19" wheels.....
i'm going to explain again there is a reason why c5,c6 and these other vehicles look right with the offset in size combinations...if you go about what your thinking without severly altering your fenders it's going to look rediculous. it isn't what's about functional and not functional but that black/white 3rdgen pic you posted has heavily modified fenders so it looks different.
you can do what you want but your hurting the performance, your going to pay more in the end and it just won't look/feel right...
you can do what you want but your hurting the performance, your going to pay more in the end and it just won't look/feel right...
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I hear you too Kandied. think about this.....18x10 rears with 285 or 295 (as wide as possible) 50 tires..Just an inch or so thicker side wall than your rear tires..18x8 fronts with 245 40 tires. the front lowered 1.5 inches and the back only 1 inch or perhaps stock. It may take custom spirngs to get the rear just right.....just to give it a slight nose down look...not jacked up in the back...just nose down like the B/W pic....what do you think? The nose down look with a very beefy rear is what I'm really after. While still filling out both wheel wells. I'm also tossing around the idea of a driver's seat only cage hinting of an ac cobra three point bar...but much safer. the car is a convertible, and a full cage looks terrible. I may just have to go without but if it ever flips I'm done without something in there. Plus I'll be barred if I ever run as fast as I plan at the strip. I'm willing to trade a bit of handling performance for look. I put a lot of weight on your opinions Kandied because I really admire what you've done with your car...and I'm sure you have tried many different wheel setups to get exactly the look you wanted....I just don't want to copy it is all. I realize if you really liked the look I'm describing you'd already have your car set up that way but I want something slightly different than what you have.
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i like the look your describing............i don't like this look! if you don't mind that look then do it.
i think what your trying to do would be ok except for the angles and extra stress your going to be putting on all your parts. it's going to be hard to find a 50 series wide tire that isn't for a suv for 18+ sizes however that doesn't mean they aren't out there or couldn't be made. i appreciate what your trying to do and i don't want to seem like your idea is impossible or wrong. just that from a few perspectives beyond looking different when parked it will make alot of things difficult for you in the end.
i say try it though and go with what you feel, if you want some reference articles and such just hit up any hotrod or otherwise magazine from the 80's. i know my local highschool use to keep them all that i would reference back when i started building.....maybe you can find some info through those. they have to have done something with that then.
i think what your trying to do would be ok except for the angles and extra stress your going to be putting on all your parts. it's going to be hard to find a 50 series wide tire that isn't for a suv for 18+ sizes however that doesn't mean they aren't out there or couldn't be made. i appreciate what your trying to do and i don't want to seem like your idea is impossible or wrong. just that from a few perspectives beyond looking different when parked it will make alot of things difficult for you in the end.
i say try it though and go with what you feel, if you want some reference articles and such just hit up any hotrod or otherwise magazine from the 80's. i know my local highschool use to keep them all that i would reference back when i started building.....maybe you can find some info through those. they have to have done something with that then.
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Trust me, I would not tolerate my car looking like that for more than one minute. I'd jack it right back up and start all over. Kandied ..just to let you how much my wife and I think of your car..........She has seen every pic page on your web site at least 5 times...I have too actually. The address is saved in favorites on our comp. She loves the color so much.......look what I bought her last weekend.
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By the way thats Smokey laying on the porch in the background, our 150 lb Timberwolf. and the wheels next to the house are some 15 x 12 race only 5 hole centerlines that I'm going to use with some Hoosier slicks for the strip. Geez I need to clean up my yard before I take any more pics!
thank you for the kind words and i'm glad you and your wife have enjoyed some of my pictures. i do not mean anything by what i say in any harsh or wrong term. i'm just trying to give my own personal point of view on the matter. i don't see it happening without some serious body work and otherwise involved. while it may not be my cup of tea on my own car it doesn't mean i don't care for it. i think the overall idea is an interesting one, however i'm certain it will take alot of work to pull of nicely and if you are as determined as it seems you are i'm sure it will turn out alright.
just want to clear some thoughts before they are assumed you know......i wish you luck with the idea and i hope you go through with it. i love to see new and interesting ideas so long as they are thought out and finished nicely. i have no doubt you'll find what you need to get your car in the right build situation.
good luck with it!
just want to clear some thoughts before they are assumed you know......i wish you luck with the idea and i hope you go through with it. i love to see new and interesting ideas so long as they are thought out and finished nicely. i have no doubt you'll find what you need to get your car in the right build situation.
good luck with it!
Here's my take on it. The "biggest possible" setup will depend on your suspension setup. Lots of things play into it, but like building an engine, you need a good "combo" if you want to avoid rubbing or grinding. The best way to ensure that you will not have any rubbing or grinding issues is to stay within the OEM factory doimensions or as close as possible in some aspects. So if you apply this to the diameter of the wheel in a lowered situation, you need to find a wheel diameter/tire sidewall combo that will fit within the OEM specs. The bigger the wheel gets, the smaller the sidewall will get. If you run bigger wheels and bigger sidewalls, you will experience rubbing issues because now the wheel/tire combo is taller/bigger than OEM. Again, this only applies if you car is lowered. Stock ride height and stroke you can probably get away with 18's with 50 sidewall or whatever. If you apply this idea to the width, the safest setup is factory specs which is 8 inches wide and 245 tire, but people push the limits and they have gotten away with wider in both the front and rear. Widest I know of that actually fit and was documented is a 10.5" wide in the front and 12" wide in the rear (try a search). But these setups are custom backspacing/offset, modified body, specifically tuned suspension and possiblt alignment. Alot of work goes into it to make the "complete package" that is oversized yet does not rub or grind. This is why like Jeff said, the 8" wide setup in the front is really safe because it fits the closest within the OEM dimensions (even 18's and 19's) so you can almost go as low as you want and you'll be OK. But if you weren't going as low as Jeff, you could get away with wider. So it all depends. Depends on your suspension stance, stroke, and dampening. I'm lowered quite a bit (not even sure how low to be honest) and I run 18x8 front w/ 245/40/18 tire and 18x9.5 rear with 275/35/18 tire. I have no rubbing at all. This is not the biggest that I can fit, but considering my suspension setup and the car being a daily driver, I needed to go with "safe" sizes. If I were to do it again going all out I would run 19x9.5 front and 19x11.5 rear but I would need to modify the body of the car both front and back and run a specific suspension setup to prevent rubbing or bottoming out. Not very streetable. I know the look you are going for, but I think it will require more modifications than you think to make it streetable. Not impossible, but more work than you might think. Anyway, here's a pic of my car (dont know how you would classify this ... tuner look? I dunno, I just called it slammed with rims):
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I think if you tubbed the rear, you could run 17s up front and something ridiculous like 22s on the back. If there was a blower scoop on the hood, maybe it would look alright.
I think if you tubbed the rear, you could run 17s up front and something ridiculous like 22s on the back. If there was a blower scoop on the hood, maybe it would look alright.
I'm running 17x8 fronts and 17x11 rears. 4.25 backspace front, 8" rear, but I'm running a '97 diff. My rears sit just in from the top lip of the wheel well. I love it. 315/35/17 Nitto DR's... I'll have some pics in the next couple days. I just got them yesterday...
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315/35 I'd like to see the pics. Ive had the 12 " Centerlines on my car both front and rear....I have 4 of them..(got em with cash in a trade for my old trailer) and the rim edge was as you described....right at the edge of the wheel flare and from the front and rear they looked incredible but the tire diameter needed to avoid rubbing was too small when seen from the side they did not look like "donuts" that some tuners ran in the late '80s/early90's..They looked more like stock car wheels but still left too much room inside the wheel wells. The look bowled people over and I got tons of compliments but I never liked the diameter and I took em off after a couple mos.
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off topic but....I read this add on E-Bay and I'm still laughing. I thought you all would get a kick out of it too.
Up for auction is a set of front and rear seats removed from a 86 Camaro Iroc. These seats are in very good condition for being 18 years old. They are black in color. I will do my best to describe in full the condition. As you can see in the one picture, there is a slight burn hole the size of a penny in the left rear seat. Apparantly the dopes that were wasted thought the back seat was the ashtray and the ashtray was a beer holder. This is a common occurence with these cars. The back carpet is usually trashed as well from underage drinkers thinking the floorpan is a toilet. The driver seat is in good condition and the power motor and controls work,with the exception of the wrinkled lumbar section. This was probably caused from the heavyset driver slouching down driving with one hand while drinking a Schlitz with the other listening to Danzig. The previous owners thought they would customize the driver seat by covering the lower black plastic trim in a velvet material. I dont think this added any value to the car or was a dealer intalled option .Um?, just spray some Flexstone paint to the other dash trim, plaster Edelbrock stickers near the shifter, and make sure the ashtray is completely filled with crap to distract from this piece. Oh yeah install a chain link steering wheel(make sure you have the Grant hub adaptor). and dont forget to install the Kenwood cassette player and make sure the wiring to the rear speakers and amps are lying on the floor so everyone can trip over them. These seats are extremely easy to install. 4 bolts on each front seat and one lower bolt for the rears. A dope like myself removed these and installed a set of 98 Camaro seats in about 45 minutes. There is slight fading on the top of the rear seats and front headrests. Most likely the car was never parked completely under the damaged carport so the sun was able to just slightly fade them. Just throw a Dale Earnhardt towel over them and your all set. Due to the weight of these and the cost of shipping, and I probably couldnt fit these in a box, these are local pick up only. Dont worry I live in a decent part of Phx., you dont have to worry about the huge Doberman attacking you. Im easy to find, I live near the casino off the 101 in a doublewide with a huge 78 Ford pickup with a gun rack parked in front with the license plate that says KEEP HONKING WHILE IM RELOADING . Although I could deliver them if Iron Maiden or Metallica is playing in your town. I'll also throw in a free cigarette lighter to the winning bidder. Once again this is a strange phenomena that 9 out of 10 Camaros that the lighter is missing. Oh yeah I know why, because the idiot that used the lighter was the one that burned the seat and never bothered to tell you. The owner most likely was so pissed he or she just threw it away and covered the hole by cleverly placing the seatbelt over it. I also have a set of matching door panels I will sell or trade for NHRA tickets, a old Escort Fuzz buster, a members only jacket, Coors neon sign, Fisher stereo, or a set of deep dish Centerline wheels with mismatched bald tires. Bid with confidence and check my feedback. I think I described these seats as best I could, if you live in Phx. stop on by and take a look. Maybe we can talk about cars and listen to Whitesnake and have some Whitecastle hamburgers. Please email me if you have any questions or call me on my Motorola brick phone. Sometimes my cellphone doesnt work so my CB handle is mr******topfuelbarnburner. Hey if you dont bid on my auction, at least I killed 45 minutes out of my day, usually time I spent watching Jerry Springer or Dr.Phill. Thanks for looking and laughing. On a final note, anyone who wants to contribute a donation to help fix my 86 Iroc it would be greatly appreciated. Its a real beauty, leaks oil, no ac, damaged quarter panel, overheats, no stereo, engine misses, exhaust leak, bad shocks, window motor is bad, transmission and engine mounts are cracked, brakes are shot, bad power steering pump, and the list goes on and on. I know when this classic is finished and running great, it might be worth as much as my FLOWBEE haircutter. I hope I made your day and made you crack a smile, why take life seriously when you have a Chevy Iroc parked in the front yard on cinder blocks.
Up for auction is a set of front and rear seats removed from a 86 Camaro Iroc. These seats are in very good condition for being 18 years old. They are black in color. I will do my best to describe in full the condition. As you can see in the one picture, there is a slight burn hole the size of a penny in the left rear seat. Apparantly the dopes that were wasted thought the back seat was the ashtray and the ashtray was a beer holder. This is a common occurence with these cars. The back carpet is usually trashed as well from underage drinkers thinking the floorpan is a toilet. The driver seat is in good condition and the power motor and controls work,with the exception of the wrinkled lumbar section. This was probably caused from the heavyset driver slouching down driving with one hand while drinking a Schlitz with the other listening to Danzig. The previous owners thought they would customize the driver seat by covering the lower black plastic trim in a velvet material. I dont think this added any value to the car or was a dealer intalled option .Um?, just spray some Flexstone paint to the other dash trim, plaster Edelbrock stickers near the shifter, and make sure the ashtray is completely filled with crap to distract from this piece. Oh yeah install a chain link steering wheel(make sure you have the Grant hub adaptor). and dont forget to install the Kenwood cassette player and make sure the wiring to the rear speakers and amps are lying on the floor so everyone can trip over them. These seats are extremely easy to install. 4 bolts on each front seat and one lower bolt for the rears. A dope like myself removed these and installed a set of 98 Camaro seats in about 45 minutes. There is slight fading on the top of the rear seats and front headrests. Most likely the car was never parked completely under the damaged carport so the sun was able to just slightly fade them. Just throw a Dale Earnhardt towel over them and your all set. Due to the weight of these and the cost of shipping, and I probably couldnt fit these in a box, these are local pick up only. Dont worry I live in a decent part of Phx., you dont have to worry about the huge Doberman attacking you. Im easy to find, I live near the casino off the 101 in a doublewide with a huge 78 Ford pickup with a gun rack parked in front with the license plate that says KEEP HONKING WHILE IM RELOADING . Although I could deliver them if Iron Maiden or Metallica is playing in your town. I'll also throw in a free cigarette lighter to the winning bidder. Once again this is a strange phenomena that 9 out of 10 Camaros that the lighter is missing. Oh yeah I know why, because the idiot that used the lighter was the one that burned the seat and never bothered to tell you. The owner most likely was so pissed he or she just threw it away and covered the hole by cleverly placing the seatbelt over it. I also have a set of matching door panels I will sell or trade for NHRA tickets, a old Escort Fuzz buster, a members only jacket, Coors neon sign, Fisher stereo, or a set of deep dish Centerline wheels with mismatched bald tires. Bid with confidence and check my feedback. I think I described these seats as best I could, if you live in Phx. stop on by and take a look. Maybe we can talk about cars and listen to Whitesnake and have some Whitecastle hamburgers. Please email me if you have any questions or call me on my Motorola brick phone. Sometimes my cellphone doesnt work so my CB handle is mr******topfuelbarnburner. Hey if you dont bid on my auction, at least I killed 45 minutes out of my day, usually time I spent watching Jerry Springer or Dr.Phill. Thanks for looking and laughing. On a final note, anyone who wants to contribute a donation to help fix my 86 Iroc it would be greatly appreciated. Its a real beauty, leaks oil, no ac, damaged quarter panel, overheats, no stereo, engine misses, exhaust leak, bad shocks, window motor is bad, transmission and engine mounts are cracked, brakes are shot, bad power steering pump, and the list goes on and on. I know when this classic is finished and running great, it might be worth as much as my FLOWBEE haircutter. I hope I made your day and made you crack a smile, why take life seriously when you have a Chevy Iroc parked in the front yard on cinder blocks.
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All I got to say is...The bigger the rims...the biger the problem...the heavier they are..and most of all....the more they look like a R1CE BURl\lER!!!
....Having said that...I say stick with no higher than 16's...Same size on both front and back no matter what dude....It aint a dragster or a funny car..
Matt
....Having said that...I say stick with no higher than 16's...Same size on both front and back no matter what dude....It aint a dragster or a funny car..Matt
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Originally posted by CamaroPimp
All I got to say is...The bigger the rims...the biger the problem...the heavier they are..and most of all....the more they look like a R1CE BURl\lER!!!
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All I got to say is...The bigger the rims...the biger the problem...the heavier they are..and most of all....the more they look like a R1CE BURl\lER!!!
.... Once again, you can still go fast with big wheels........
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