who makes the best one ? where can i buy it ? how much does it cost ? how much weight will it take off the front of my ta ? and well cant think of another question at the moment so thanx for all info i can possibly get on this subject.

 

No one makes a decent one.... Yet...

Kat

 

quit messing with our heads kat!

 

Kat

 

looks like the A arms arent being released this week, damn it!

 

Maybe next week... :shrug:

Kat

 

hmm guess im being left in the dark on this one. well will a 4th gen one fit on a 3rd gen ?

 

no.


and try Profab racing....... because you can actually buy their kmember.



btw, there are better places for weight loss... k member/a arms are more for the extra space they give around the motor.

 

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heres a check
*hands KagA152 a check*

show me this k member that we all know we're talking about but not mentioning the name of.

*takes check back*


i can take this check to any fabricator and he could make me a good k member. if there were areas i felt needed to be improved, i could do it easily.


but all thats besides the point.
point is, i hand this check to any number of "other" vendors. they hand me a k member that works. that hasnt broken yet. the worse ive heard so far first hand is their service needs work.

plus the price is right.


im reminded of a quote from the matrix. (and yes i know im probly mis pronouncing it....)

it went like this:
'there is no spoon.'

 

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How am I supposed to eat my cherrios???

 

Ah but you can request for extra bracing and so far, I've seen no pictures of a broken k-member.

 

I agree. We've (mostly Steve) has been working ont he a-arms since July-ish. I can honestly say that the a-arms that we make now are far better than anything that is out there. From the welds (I dont think that anyone can beat Steve's and Kevin's wleds) to making sure all the notches are at the correct angle, proper bracing and fitment. That kinda of stuff doesn't happen in one weeks worth of work. Hence why it has been taking so long. Making abosolutley sure that everything fits perfect.

As for the K member to be started to be designed. I beleive that is on the schedule after the totally streetable coil over kit is done. Yes for the front and for the rear. Today I beleive that we got the parts needed for the rear coil over and "hopefully" the sleeve that Steve designed will be done this week for the front end.

Thanks for the loyalty guys.

Kat

 

tilt the bowl :lala:

 

Will these "A" arms work with stock springs ??? I can't fit a coilover with my 17x9.5s up front ..my rim is to close to the strut..
Looks I'm going to have a junk "K" member for sale soon..:lala:

 

Yup as long as you order them with spring pockets.

Kat

 

Thats cool any idea on Moly a arm cost????

 

More than mild steel.. LOL Actually I dont remember.

Kat

 

Check back here tommorow for some links.


Steve

 

Psst, yes you can. Use the stock rear wheel spacers on the front if the wheels have a total 5 1/2" backspace and bevel the edge of the bottom collar slightly. Trust me, it works. Gotta love 2 am, I need to drive this thing home ingenuity...

 

I tried that once when I was drunk, and most of them got on my underwear, which is another story in itself.

 

Did i hear Steve say tomorrow for links woo hoo Maybe ill see a 3 point STB also i want my suspension full of spohn parts.

 

Sweet! Just don't take too long with that K-member!

 

The best part is these A-arms will work perfectly with either the stock k-member or also with the new K-member Spohn is designing. So if you are on a budget, you can buy just the a-arms now and the k later without worry of compatabilty.

This coilover setup is very very trick. My order is going in ASAP. He has developed a special 3 part brace system for the fenders to support the added load of the coilover suspension onto the fenders. We will finally have a very durable roadrace ready 4 wheel coilover etup for these cars that will allow us to set cornerweights.

 

my profab arms and PA racings arms will also work with the stock K member.

along with most aftermarket S10 front lower control arms, G body front lower control arms, ect.....


the real trick is having a tubular K member that can accept stock LCAs... no one makes one yet....

if spohns does that, it would be cool since you would get your space, but save a couple hund on LCA cost.... food for thought

 

Enlighten me please as to why you would keep the heavy unsrpung weight stock A-arms, yet spend money on a k-member to lighten the chassis. You are lowering your sprung to unsprung ratios and causing the car to ride worse. You are not improving your handling one bit, you are hurting it.

I know, now you'll tell me its a drag car and you don't care about cornering. You drive your car on the street? then it has to go around corners, and you indeed have to ride in its bumpy *** all the way to work every day- I know your car is not a full time drag car and you do in fact rely on it as a primary vehicle.

 

re read my post.
the sole reason for the Kmember in my case is the additional clearance it provides.

plus, for drag racing, if you're buying a K member, you would already have skinnys. it would be stupid not to... the stock K member doenst weigh that much. you lose about 12lbs going to the profab one.
you lose that with ONE tire going to a skinny. thats twice the weight loss... but thats irrlevent as its not a drag car.

in anycase, most people here cant afford to buy both at once, like you said.
its the Kmember im after. the arms weigh a few pounds less. big whoop. my tires could save that weigh much cheaper.

my car is my toy street cruiser. its running on cut STOCK saggy springs and will be getting airbags installed as soon as i have the compressor and tank. only reason i dont have them is i just bought the LS1 and it comes before i bag the car.

my car isnt very bumpy.. matter of fact, its too soft for my tastes. it has less then stock body roll, but other then that, it just handles moderately.


btw, its not my primary vehicle anymore. i havent even driven it in 6 months. i have two other cars, a motorcycle, and after i close on my house, i plan to buy a truck and trailer.



if you're curious, heres my setup:

bridgestone potenzas.
stock 16" 91 rims. ( to be replaced with Boyd 17" rims eventually)
bilstein shocks
poly sway bar bushings
profab tubular a arms
profab tubular K member
stock 99 camaro rear LCAs
stock 99 camaro panhard (and i plan to buy a single adjustible, poly bushing one when i get around to it)
custom aluminum adjustible TQ arm. (i'll take pics soon, expect a new topic)
4thgen rear end (yes the rear end sticks out mexican style. i'll fix that with the rims later)
new front centerlink (moog i think)
new tie rod ends
coleman racing tie rod connectors
new old stock upper strut mounts (i plan to get thoes nice billet bearing ones in the future, but not right away)
new ball joints came with the a arms
new spindles will go in with the 13" C4HD brakes and wilwood calipers... (right now i just have the spindle and bracket. no hub or calipers yet.)


i think thats about it for now...

 

Cut stock springs and you needed the K for clearaence?

I'll tell everyone why you stopped driving it- because it rides like crap and embarasses you- it look better just sitting there- You have to wait till you can get enough money to fix things correctly so you would be able to enjoy it again.

Yet you still preach to everyone else they don't need adjustments when they alter their vehicles.

 

oh noes!

by all means go ahead.

heres a few tips:

when graboid was shaving his gas cap, i was mentioning the fumes inside on the panels...


later on, im talking about how i would like to do it to my car.



if you go back a few years, you'll find all sorts of conflicting opinions compared to now.




i change my mind.




anyhoo, i'll break it down... atleast until i goto lunch..


eh, in your opinion, sure.. but as you may have realized, everyone doesnt share your point of view, but i'll play along.




nope.
see, i dont buy alot of stuff for my car... thats why i dont have 8 spohn crossmembers.. i dont have 3 sets of relocation brackets (mine, BMRs and spohns)

i have friends. lots of them. yes in life, real people.
i work on roughly 20 diffrent fbodys a year. my car i dont have any real attachment to.
i dont even have full coverage insurance on it (yet)
if its wrecked, i'll pull good parts off and buy another one. i have a more realistic point of view about the car then you may think.

notice, the ONLY adjustible part i argue with you about are rear lower control arms.
everything else i need to be adjustible...

now if im talking to someone wanting a drag car, im obviously going to reccomend somthing diffrent then a street car, if my opinion (based on the cars ive worked on) says so....




you'll have to be more specific if you want a real useful answer
in a nutshell:
i buy aftermarket parts and improve my car in whatever way i see fit.
when i change my mind about what im doing with the car, i change my opinions on it.

for example, right now, i want to drive it allll next summer on a long road trip.
this means LS1, T56 and a few other nice things.


be more specific, and i'll give you whatever honest answer you want..


well im doing a custom cold air intake for the LS1
going to do a 224 cam swap on the LS1
im probly going to put new tires on it before the road trip.. def before Dec next year.
i have a alum TQ arm, im probly going to make some non adjustible, poly bushing alum LCAs.
i have dual electric cutouts i plan to put in with the LS1 exhaust
i would like to fab up some longtubes.. depending on how i like bruces design/price.
like i said earlier, im getting a poly bushing, single adjustible panhard....
thats about it for now.
i plan to drive the **** out of it for awhile. its been down about 6 months for rebuild work..



its never done. i get bored easily. hell 9 months ago, i had a solid roller 400 in it, with a T56 behind it.
before that i had my 82 camaro with a ****load of dragrace crap on it

i always change my mind.

ive been eyeing some digi cams.... i'll post up pics if you want... what do you want to see?

and im giving you **** on pourpose because you're a self absorbed *** somtimes that cannot accept a conflicting opinion.

i however can be "called out" six ways from sunday, and still feel good about myself when i walk away from the PC.

 

kmember for clearance with the LS1 to run longtubes.

and the cut springs are temporary... mostly because the car is missing 300lbs off the nose.

think about it.



and they do need adjustments... in the TQ arm and panhard.

 

My "conflicting opinion" is based on mathimatics- it is factual and can not be contested. Mathimatics doesn't lie.

You give no basis to your opinion. Give me an equation and I will prove it factually

 

Do you see what i see look at steve's site. Actually has the lip for the sping to sit in also the biggest thing i didnt like about the other aftermarket ones.

 

Just be patient and see what else he has coming with the coilover setup- talk about quality and function.

 

:werd:

 

Like how that one guy's car was impossible to be as low at it was and still drive?

 

i know this... i wish i had more time to type it but i was already running late for lunch.. im back now..



just because mathmaticly it works out as a force, doesnt mean you can feel it driving down the road.. it doesnt mean its a large enough force to justify spending more money or even correcting it in all cases.


its a opinion if it needs to be corrected.. or have the ability to be corrected. THATS where my OPINION and yours differ.

math has nothing to do with it.

the fact that 99% of us here, on the street, couldnt tell the diff between a stock lowered V8 car with adjustible LCAs (adjusted perfectly), and non adjustible LCAs. assuming the panhard is on and adjusted properly and the pinion angle was correct.



if you want to REALLY get down to it, i have several 4thgen friends cutting 1.6 60s on stock 4thgen LCAs.. and you can get thoes almost free... id say they're totally optional for most people.
but since they like buying LCAs, and if you're on the edge of wheelhop, they can help, i understand people buying them.

 

so he knows what the hell you're talking about:


someone posted TPI383s project car pic.

in that pic, he has a bottle of mikes hard lemonade for high referance.


someone said it was impossibly low and undriveable.

you argued with him.





truth is, there were no springs in the car. it was sitting on its bumpstops so he could roll it out of the garage.

 

85zee was in on it too, but he isn't on this board.

 

mathematics - not mathmatics, mathimatics.....spelling it wrongs sort of lessens the grip on the subject you people are implying you have

 

i know..

but i suck at spelling, and i dont always re-read what i post, so i dont call people out on it, or even bring it up.

 

hmm okay then lol if you guys wanna know. i dont exactly want the kmember just for weight loss but also for its extra suport and stuff. im puting a 455 in my trans am and need the extra room for headers,weightloss for weight distrabution perposes,and i need one thats stronger then the stock one so it can suport the 455.

 

:yourock:

 

You have an aluminum torque arm? I just don't see how that would be strong enough to serve it's purpose.



Ed

 

I have had a set on my car and they wouldn't fit..
I have 13"Baer brakes with a 1.5 in spacer and that gives me a waaaaaping 3/32nds clearance from the rim lip area and the spot where the coilover would sit on the strut
I don't want to move the wheel out cause it will rub on the fenders (and fender liners) when i turn..... car is lowered a bit too 1.75 fr 1.5 rear...

Ive been down the 2am thing and it sucks

 

I believe the 455 weighs close to the same if not less than a sbc.... or did you mean a 454????

 

nope im puting in a 455 it doesnt weight as much as a 454 but im pretty sure its gona be heavier then the 350 i have now. why do u ask ?

 

Because I'm a old school Pontiac man...

I have a70 Formula W/a stroker 69 428 a 73 Formula 350 a 73 T/A with a 455 auto ...along with my 89 Formula it has a big cube smallblock ... ; )

The 455 is a few ponds less than a Pontiac 350... Y?? the blocks are the same size but the 455 has a bigger bore ..so it has less casting and more hole....kinda like my last GF

I have allways wanted to do what you are doing good luck!!!

 

so steve, when can we expect to see the k member? im going to be placing a large order and want to do it all at once

 

on the phone i was told teh Ks will be out end of january. but i wouldnt hold ur breath, its very possible that thngs will take longer then anticipated. i cant wait to they come out because i want to order all my stuff too