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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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do all IROC's have wonderbars?

do all IROC's have wonderbars? ...just curious because it seems as though Pontiacs do not..? Thanks.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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No TransAm or Firebird was equipped with the steering box brace (aka, the Wonderbar). Only Camaro had the IROC designation.

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:04 AM
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uhm ya.. sorry if I wasn't clear...

as far as I know all firebirds and forumla's didn't have a wonderbar...

however did all Chevrolet Camaro "IROC-Z"s have a wonderbar?? I have two '88 IROC's and I know the one has the steering brace.. just curious if they all had it as a standard item or if it was an option with these IROCs?
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:25 AM
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not a standard item i don't believe
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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I've never seen an IROC without a Wonderbar (though I haven't seen every one) . I believe the Wonderbar was standard on IROCs--at least those with 16 in wheels. The Camaro WhiteBook, as part of the IROC option (B4Z), mentions it as "front frame rail reinforcement."

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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yea all irocs had wonderbars, when i got my iroc my wonderbar was missing some hackmonkey who was working on it took it off and didn't put it back on
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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This topic should somehow be the very first warning to anyone entering TGO.

Thes cars are subject to the frame cracking behind the steering box due to excessive strain on this area when cornering.

Chevrolet knew this and installed the wonderbars onto the better performing harder cornering IROC Camaros that came factory with the wider 8" rims.

Why Pontiac never added one is beyond me since the GTA is heavier and has subsequently more strain in this area due to weight.

Everyone that does not have one should make a cheap insurance purchase and buy one unless the car is a drag race only car.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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hmm news to me, i've seen 3 or irocs around the area from people who are on a local board, and they didn't have teh wonderbar, could of been taken off at some point, but still everyone should buy one
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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ok well I'll have to double check then just to ensure 100% that I have one..
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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UNDOCUMENTED THIRDGEN F-BODY FEATURE: STRESS CRACKS IN FRAME.

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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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I have the basic 15 in wheels and I also have the wonderbar
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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I knew that some IROCs had 15s, but I wasn't sure about the Wonderbar--makes sense though, it is an IROC after all. Do the wheels look like the standard IROC 16s?

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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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yea they had the double stipe in them check my cardomain before and after
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