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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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What can cause excessive negitive camber?

I just installed a set of Spohn lower control arms with the spring perches, along with his billet upper strut mounts and I'm running Eibach pro kit springs and Koni yellow struts. I also have the Baer 13" track kit and 18" corvette magnesium wheels with 2" spacers, and all new Moog steering parts.

Now on the driver side I was able to adjust the wheel to where it sits straight up and down or 0 degrees camber, and the ride height is where its supposed to be, with adjustment still left. However on the passenger side the top of the tire is sitting further in than the bottom of the tire and its sitting much lower than the driver side (way to much negitive camber). When I try to adjust the top strut mount and pull it all the way out I am still getting way to much negitive camber and the body is also sitting to low on that side.

Also on the back side of the wheel, I have at least 2 fingers clearance between the back of the rim and the strut, but I can barely fit one finger behind the passenger side wheel. I checked the spring pocket and its sitting like it should, so I'm kinda at a loss at what to do.

What can cause this issue? and what can I do to fix it?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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extreme negative camber - sounds to me like the passenger's side control arm is built wrong.....If it's too long, it would push the bottom of the strut out to far, thus creating unadjustable negative camber.
One wheel is closer to the strut than the other??? back space, spacer thickness, hub/rotor/spacer/wheel seated improper???? hummmm....

- wait a second. - you sure you have the passenger's strut mounted on the proper side of the spindle? Not 180 out???? If the strut was flipped to the outside, it would cause all the problems you're describing.....
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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- wait a second. - you sure you have the passenger's strut mounted on the proper side of the spindle? Not 180 out???? If the strut was flipped to the outside, it would cause all the problems you're describing.....
have you ever LOOKED at your spindle?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Car: 91 Z/28, 89 RS Race Car
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How about wheel bearings.

The fact that the wheel sits at a cant relative to the strut seem to indicate a bent spindle or bad bearing.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I'll check all those things out this weekend. I didn't have any problems with the stock parts, but when I swaped over to the Baer brakes I did it as a complete assembly spindle and all.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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have you ever LOOKED at your spindle?
yes, but mine have been cut/modified for my 13" C4 brakes. - The set we used on my old man's camaro were factory and one of the Autozone struts we had(drag car, don't care) would bolt on bass-ackwards. - Didn't do it, just noticed it could.....
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I would check to make sure the springs were indexed properly. The ride height different on each side is a dead giveaway.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Thats exactly what I thought too since I'm running the Eibach pro kit and that side of the car is slammed. However when I looked that spring is sitting right where it should in the spring pocket, so I'm stumped. I was checking things this weekend and I can't seem to figure out whats causing this problem.

Is it possible to make the holes longer in the frame to allow me to adjust more camber? If not I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board to figure this out. Just when I thought the car would make it onto the road this year...
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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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If the wheel bearing are good.

If the spindle is not bent.

On the side in question, loosten the strut from the spindle and re align. The struts have a little slop in the bolt holes and you can use this to get extra camber.

You can loosen the bolts and wiggle the strut on the spindle.

It may be that yours is mounted such that the bottom of the strut is positioned closer to the car centerline than needed and the upper mount has the top of the strut closer to the tire.

Check this and I believe that you will find your problem.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I'll defenitly try that. I did check the wheel bearings and I can't feel any slop in them at all, and as far as I can tell the spindle doesn't look like it was bent at all so I'm hoping your idea will work.

I did get one of the issues resolved where the back of the wheel was almost touching the strut. I used a pair of those factory rear wheel spacers which probably gave me another 1/4" of clearance and now I have as much room back there as the other side has. To keep things safe I'll just get a new 2 1/4" spacer instead of doubling up the slip on ones.
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