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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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83 firebird box onto 91 s-10, pitman diameter and steering stops ?

are the pitman shafts of a 91 s-10 box and an 83 firebird box the same diameter ? i did my best with a tape measure and both seem to be about 1 and 1/8" diameter, but i cant be for certain

both are power steering

the s-10 box is shot worn out and so i need the firebird one for the truck

my 82 trans am box has alot larger pitman arm shaft i know


anyone know for sure ?

this is a complicated subject and i tried searching on here for all these different related terms all to no avail



also would i need to remove the internal box stops in the 83 box to use it on the s-10 ?


if so then which pieces are they and where are they in the box exactly ? i have taken many saginaw boxes apart in the past in order to sell the pitman shafts but i have never noticed any stops ever

and what about the rag joint and input shaft ?

BTW, i saw threads here where ppl called the 82 to 84 s-series trucks the first gens and the 85-93 the second gens,

well actually all 93 and oldr are first gen

so.
but the little blazers were a year off on this

thanks for anything

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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Re: 83 firebird box onto 91 s-10, pitman diameter and steering stops ?

Originally Posted by Randy82WS7
are the pitman shafts of a 91 s-10 box and an 83 firebird box the same diameter ? i did my best with a tape measure and both seem to be about 1 and 1/8" diameter, but i cant be for certain
both are power steering
the s-10 box is shot worn out and so i need the firebird one for the truck
my 82 trans am box has alot larger pitman arm shaft i know
anyone know for sure ?
this is a complicated subject and i tried searching on here for all these different related terms all to no avail

Originally Posted by Randy82WS7
also would i need to remove the internal box stops in the 83 box to use it on the s-10 ?
83's did not have 16" wheels (an XH box from a 16" car would have stops preventing normal wheel turning of a car w/ 15" wheels) so "No."

As long as your S10 is 2WD, I don't see why you couldn't re-use the S-10 pitman, as it's a non-wear item on F-body & G-body (I assume it is also non-wear on the S/T trucks. The 4WD S/T have a different pitman.)

if so then which pieces are they and where are they in the box exactly ? i have taken many saginaw boxes apart in the past in order to sell the pitman shafts but i have never noticed any stops ever

and what about the rag joint and input shaft ?
Stops might be on the front circular cover. You might not see them in any boxes unless out of a 16" wheel F (or maybe a 17" wheel Impala or 16" wheel S-10 SS or something.)

input/rag should match right up 83 to 91.

BTW, i saw threads here where ppl called the 82 to 84 s-series trucks the first gens and the 85-93 the second gens,

well actually all 93 and oldr are first gen
See, now you're talking politics.

but the little blazers were a year off on this

thanks for anything
Well, I had a SOB finding a relay from autozone / checker for the HVAC blower motor for a '94 S-10 (new body style.) I didn't even think to ask for one for a '95.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Re: 83 firebird box onto 91 s-10, pitman diameter and steering stops ?

ok thanks





i removed the 83 box wth the intermediate shaft and all together today

so there should be no internal steering stops/limiters inside the 83 base firebird box ?


hmmm

and yeah politics are funny like that haha
i confirmed that actually i was wrong on the s-series years

my neighbor has a 94 2wd s-10 blzer and its the old first gen body still

so blazers= 94-older and the pickups 93-older

for the first gen body

the full size trucks did something funny like this as well

87-91 k-5/jimmy, some 1 tons, and the burbs were the older body style -but with updates.. and the unique front grille design as well

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