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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 87350IROC

if the Spohn bar (assume its a Spohn?) here is adjusted to the same length as the factory one inthe same pic, then the body is much shorter than what the bar would be with just rod ends, so it may not help with our question. But in the same breath, it looks like there is a lot of exposed thread off teh ends, is there adequite thread engagement left? not sure how long the threads are.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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do you have a issue getting the wrench on the axle side too? curious.

the mounts may be a little different, but they cant be too much different and defiantly have the same ID.
The axle side should have a bit more clearance, at least with the 9 bolt. I don't have a picture of the body side handy. But a curious question nonetheless.

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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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Ok so from what's I've edelbrock makes the best adjustable on car one correct? I can't find if they make a single or double adjustable one. Do they only make one? The same one pops up everytime I search.
i woundt say that. Theirs puts a adjuster sleave on the driverside, so its adjusted from there, and they only offer poly bushings, not the best choice. spohn makes a couple bars like that and i would use theirs over edelbrock anyday. parts 104 106 107 here http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-.../Panhard-Bars/
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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The axle side should have a bit more clearance, at least with the 9 bolt. I don't have a picture of the body side handy. But a curious question nonetheless.

the mount looks the same, or close enough to the 10 bolts. But like i said earlier, that bar seems to be shorter (tube part) since the delrin ends are larger than rod ends, so clearance seems much better simply because of that.



I cant jack up my car right now, its packed away and needs to be on ramps to get the jack under it, but the UMI tube seems to be about 39.125 or 39.250 long, that just the tube part.

i was going to check the 92 for the stock length, but had a brain fart and forgot there is no panhard there anymore...silly me
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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i woundt say that. Theirs puts a adjuster sleave on the driverside, so its adjusted from there, and they only offer poly bushings, not the best choice. spohn makes a couple bars like that and i would use theirs over edelbrock anyday. parts 104 106 107 here http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-.../Panhard-Bars/
So are all those parts the same with different bushings? My car is a pure street car. Which do you believe would be best for mainly street driving and only going to track every once and awhile.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

if you are just replacing it for the sake of it, any bar will do, the on car adjustablility is just a nice feature because it makes it easier to get the rear centered. If you are not trying to stuff really wide tires on the car, its not "needed".

I tend to stay away from any fabricated edelbrock part. they have a bad rap for breaking, and being overpriced.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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if you are just replacing it for the sake of it, any bar will do, the on car adjustablility is just a nice feature because it makes it easier to get the rear centered. If you are not trying to stuff really wide tires on the car, its not "needed".

I tend to stay away from any fabricated edelbrock part. they have a bad rap for breaking, and being overpriced.
I do plan to put bigger tires on it and want to adjust it and easy and as much as possible. Don't really want to have to unbolt everything like above to do it. Want to be able to do it on the car.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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I do plan to put bigger tires on it and want to adjust it and easy and as much as possible. Don't really want to have to unbolt everything like above to do it. Want to be able to do it on the car.
then defiantly look for a on car adjustable one, brand is your decision.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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then defiantly look for a on car adjustable one, brand is your decision.
Ok, any ideas on what would be a good on car adjustable one? Single or double adjustable?
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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Ok, any ideas on what would be a good on car adjustable one? Single or double adjustable?
i already mention this, and posted links earlier in the thread.

"single adjustable" is not on car, you have to unblt one side. And as was mentioned earlier, "single and double" adjustable are just marketing terms that umi uses.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

Ok I get it now, all three you posted are adjustable on car they just have different brushings correct?
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
if the Spohn bar (assume its a Spohn?) here is adjusted to the same length as the factory one inthe same pic, then the body is much shorter than what the bar would be with just rod ends, so it may not help with our question. But in the same breath, it looks like there is a lot of exposed thread off teh ends, is there adequate thread engagement left? not sure how long the threads are.
The del-sphere ends have lots of threads. There is probably more than 1" of engagement. Anyway I don't recall if the bar was adjusted in those pics. The first one was just for me to have a record of how different the two bars look. I have similar pics for torque arms, lca, k-member, etc. Also, the perspective of the photo makes the Spohn bar look shorter.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

Originally Posted by david068513
Ok I get it now, all three you posted are adjustable on car they just have different brushings correct?
Yes. Do it right the first time, get either the delrin or rod ends.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

Originally Posted by 87350IROC
Yes. Do it right the first time, get either the delrin or rod ends.
, the delrin ones cost a little more, but im really liking them anymore. Rods ends work, but after a while can get a bit noise if its a street car and they are exposed to wether, water, salt, dirt ect. I have a 10 or so rod ends on the back of my 92, just in the mumford/sway bar, they see a lot of rain a nd dirt (no snow) and so far they are not noisy, but only have about 4k miles on them. the panhard on my 86 again has rod ends, no noise yet either, but they also have little use.

If you can swing it, i would go with the delrin setup over the rod end. If htey do wear, they can be simply tightened, but i believe you need a special wrench for that?
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Ok I'll Probley get the Delrin setup then. So to adjust these ones I won't have to take anything off to adjust it which will help a lot.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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If you can swing it, i would go with the delrin setup over the rod end. If htey do wear, they can be simply tightened, but i believe you need a special wrench for that?
Yes, they sell the adjustment tool for $13. I'm sure one could figure out to adjust them without the tool. I choose to buy the tool.





If the delrin inserts completely wear out they can be replaced for $4 per joint.

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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

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Ok I'll Probley get the Delrin setup then. So to adjust these ones I won't have to take anything off to adjust it which will help a lot.
Yes.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

This is the one I use on my car. On car adjustable with both types of ends.

Works great for the street.

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=111
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Seems spohn makes the best one from the reviews im reading.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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Re: Panhard bar questions???

Throw some pics up when you're done installing.
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