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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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after i got the subframe connectors installed... *pics

so, thanks to Dyno Don i got my BMR Outer Subframe Connectors in finally and i noticed this when i jacked the car up..pretty amazing how much they stiffen the chassis. gives a great jacking point too check it out!

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the whole drivers side was in the air just from jacking it up from the middle of the car because of the SFC's..this amazed me..dunno if its typical but yea theres that
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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How much did those cost you for im wanting some sfc that wont be a problem to install.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Forgot to weld the pinch line to the SFCs? Fab some tabs and weld it all together w/ 2" stiches spreaded apart, that will stiffen it up even more.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Re: after i got the subframe connectors installed... *pics

the more impressive pic would be to have the jack stand up under the firewall and still have the rear wheel evenly off the ground.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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yeah that would be haha. You can buy UMI thru summit and get cheap shipping SickRS. I'll buy you subframe's and you ship me the hawks spoiler
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Forgot to weld the pinch line to the SFCs? Fab some tabs and weld it all together w/ 2" stiches spreaded apart, that will stiffen it up even more.
will do thanks dude!
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Nice!! I'm looking at umi 3 point or Allston inner sfc
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How do those Falken tires perform?
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Nice!! I'm looking at umi 3 point or Allston inner sfc
Alstons will hang too low on a lowered car.
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Mine only scrape every now and then, it's really not that bad and we have a lot of speed bumps here, some are very high and short. Almost every street here has one or more speedbumps, it's insane
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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How do those Falken tires perform?
the 512's grip pretty good..seem to have soft sidewalls though.

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Mine only scrape every now and then, it's really not that bad and we have a lot of speed bumps here, some are very high and short. Almost every street here has one or more speedbumps, it's insane
i hate speedbumps lol..especially with how low my car is.
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Alstons will hang too low on a lowered car.
You think umi or bmr sfc tuck in nicely in comparison to allstons?
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 12:14 AM
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my UMI's have never scraped. The alstons look like they could. My exhaust hangs lower than that though. My exhaust scrapes
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 12:27 AM
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You think umi or bmr sfc tuck in nicely in comparison to allstons?
mine tuck pretty well..never scraped em..heres how my car sits..
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if you have a non-gfx car they will show so id suggest black if you do.
Originally Posted by UnderCover89TBI
my UMI's have never scraped. The alstons look like they could. My exhaust hangs lower than that though. My exhaust scrapes
yeah mine too..my exhaust flange right in the middle hits speedbumps and whatever else..my air dam scrapes EVERYTHING tho..lol..
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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what do these sfc weigh?
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 03:13 AM
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mine tuck pretty well..never scraped em..heres how my car sits..

Absolutley LOVE the look of your car with the smoked side lenses and the smoked turn signals in the front! They really pop on a white car.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Sweet man!! That is a high priority on my list.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Absolutley LOVE the look of your car with the smoked side lenses and the smoked turn signals in the front! They really pop on a white car.
thanks dude! appreciate it!
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what do these sfc weigh?
id say like..20lbs a side..just a guess though.
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Sweet man!! That is a high priority on my list.
yeah dude, you wont be disappointed. it changed the whole feel of the car as far as stability.
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 03:03 AM
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Someone wanna send a link of where to order these?
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 03:08 AM
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http://www.bmrsuspension.com/index.c...d=60&catid=176

Are yours the "inside" or "outside" frame exhaust style?
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Outside
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Care to share what you spent on the parts?
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMR-SFC009R/
$200 + $100 to get em installed $300 total hands down best upgrade suspension wise next to springs
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 02:50 AM
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I'll have to do it! My friend keeps trying to talk me out of them saying it's not worth it unless you're running 400+ rwhp, I keep trying to tell him he doesn't understand thirdgen body flex. Figures, he drives an 05 GTO.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Yes these need to be welded to the pinch weld to make them waaay better.
Also these should be put on every thirdgen from V6s on up, esp TTOPcars..
Major improvement.
While going down the road in a stock car, you look out of your drside mirror and see the door/ quarterpanel dancing.. With subframe connectors that doesnt happen.. It also helps door hinge bushings live a long life..
once thats done then its time to attack all the pesky squeeks an rattles..
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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I'll have to do it! My friend keeps trying to talk me out of them saying it's not worth it unless you're running 400+ rwhp, I keep trying to tell him he doesn't understand thirdgen body flex. Figures, he drives an 05 GTO.
yeah that doesnt apply to these cars..woulda been the first thing i did if i would have known how great of an improvement they are
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Yes these need to be welded to the pinch weld to make them waaay better.
Also these should be put on every thirdgen from V6s on up, esp TTOPcars..
Major improvement.
While going down the road in a stock car, you look out of your drside mirror and see the door/ quarterpanel dancing.. With subframe connectors that doesnt happen.. It also helps door hinge bushings live a long life..
once thats done then its time to attack all the pesky squeeks an rattles..
well put im gonna get the pinch welds connected soon
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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I like 'em! Those are real close to the old Spohn ones I have on my car except that the braces that go under the doors lie right alongside so they get welded without using any tabs. It'll stiffen things up even better when you weld 'em. You just need to stich weld about an inch in length every two inches along the bottom.

I noticed a difference in chassis stiffness immediately. My T-Tops used to creak every time I turned up my driveway...before the SFC's.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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Anyway someone could post a pic of the weld between the pinch weld and the subframe connectors. I don't believe the shop that installed mine did this.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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I noticed a difference in chassis stiffness immediately. My T-Tops used to creak every time I turned up my driveway...before the SFC's.
mine too!..went away completely

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Anyway someone could post a pic of the weld between the pinch weld and the subframe connectors. I don't believe the shop that installed mine did this.
also interested
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looks good man... sfc's is a thirdgens best friend lol....
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mgb86
Anyway someone could post a pic of the weld between the pinch weld and the subframe connectors. I don't believe the shop that installed mine did this.
Pretty easy to tell. Look under your door (or GFX if you have them). You'll see the SFC...and the welds will be apparent..
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Sorry I should of been more clear I know that they didn't weld it, but I do want to see how you guys made up the tabs and such. Thanks

BTW...Mikey your car looks amazing!
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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mine came with 4 2x2" tabs now that i think about it :P
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BTW...Mikey your car looks amazing!
Odd thing is, I'm not the biggest 'Bird fan - but something about those GTA's I love. It helps when you live in Southern Calif. too - nice to cars...
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 01:51 AM
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the 512's grip pretty good..seem to have soft sidewalls though.
Thanks!
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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I should be installing my Spohn SFC's tomorrow or Thursday, I'll get some pinch seam weld pics for you guys. The Spohn connectors weigh 22lbs TOTAL according to my bathroom scale.
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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You can see my pinch welds here. Mw66nova(can see his car in the background on the left) did it for me, not me, but the car is mine.
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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not sure exactly, what im looking at
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Re: after i got the subframe connectors installed... *pics

Look at the side of the car, under the doors. The long flange along the length is welded to the SFC.

Here are my SFCs w small plates that I will use to weld the pinch welds to, they are stainless "standoffs" so that dirt and water can still get out from there.

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Re: after i got the subframe connectors installed... *pics

Originally Posted by itsMikey
not sure exactly, what im looking at
Look down the outside of the driver's side subframe connector. You see the little welds to rocker flap that hangs down?
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