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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 08:49 PM
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what struts should i get?

ok, now that ONE of my struts is destroyed, i need a new one, and since im planning to autocross this year, im looking for something high performance, but not too much $$. i know OE replacements are only $30, but autozone has high perf. struts for $180.. but are they good ones? i don't remember the name...

now here is another question, what are some good struts that i can buy? i don't wanna spend much over $300 total.... anyone got any recomendations???

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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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I dont know, but I have heard good things about the KYB's and the blistiens...
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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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If your on a budget get the KYB's,if ya got money to spre get Koni reds. In my opion the Konis are about the best out there.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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so. what exactly is the difference in the OE struts, $30 each, and most high performance struts?? are they just stiffer and react faster?? what else makes them better?
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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The Koni's are adjustable so you can tune yout shocks to how you drive,such as drag racing,performance driving and Autoxx. The react a hell of alot faster than any oe strut. The adjustable part is what makes them 10x beter than a oe strut.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 04:52 PM
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Well, I HEARD that adjustable struts wear out faster than non-adjustable. Is this true? If so, how much quicker? Thanks
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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does anyone know where we can get a GP discount?
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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If you are serious about autocrossing, you have to seriously consider the Koni Adjustables. I have ask dozens (yes, literally) of autocrossers with experience in third gens and it is almost unanimous that the Konis are the way to go.

I took this advice and installed mine late last year.

Here are my first impressions:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...threadid=65009

To further on this, I got 6 seconds off my lap time at Nelsons Ledges (2 mile road racing course in Ohio) after installing them.

Ain't much fun on the road, but provide better handling.

I haven't heard anything about these wearing out faster...
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Arent they adjustable? I guess the next question would be How adjustable are they?
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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How much are the Koni's? Does it come with a little booklet telling you what to set your settings at? How many mins can the settings be changed in?

Along the same lines, noone has replied to my post on rebuilding my suspension.. I wrote it EARLY in the morning after a long day.. Keep that in mind

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...threadid=80375

If you have and ideas dont be shy

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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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KYB's are good if you're on a tight budget.I've had them on my third gen and other cars for years.
Konis and Bilsteins are much better if budget allows.
Check Shox.com.They'll E-mail you a quote on these brands and others quickly.Hard to beat their price.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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The Koni Adjustables (yellow) cost me just under $575, delivered to my house from tirerack.com. shox.com was a couple of dollars cheaper, but I went with Tire Rack because of their good reputation for tech support (maybe shox.com has good support, too. I guess I didn't give them a fair chance).

If you click on the link provided in my post above, you will see a description of the adjustment procedure. Fronts - 5 minutes max. Rears could take up to an hour, depending on how fast you are at removing/relinstalling the rear seat/carpets.

"How adjustable?" Don't know how to answer that one... Maybe a read of the technical sections of www.koni-na.com (including the PDF files) can answer that one for you.

My shocks are on full soft. If this is full soft, I have no interest in firming them up. The ride is harsh.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Are the Reds better than the Yellows ?

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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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As the reds better? Well, they are probably more civilized. However, I am pretty sure that they are not adjustable... You'd have to check the specs to confirm this.

Sounds like you're to the point that you probably need to read up a little on what dampening/rebound rates do to the car. There are some great writeups on the Koni website on this topic.

If I were to do this all over again, I would read up on the adjustment procedures and range of dampening rate and rebound rates, pcik the range that suited my needs, then checked some cheaper brand shocks to see if their rates were within the range of what I was looking for...
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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Alright, thanks for your help
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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tokico struts are pretty good-way better (i think) than the kybs that i have run in the past.tokico's much firmer and is a good balance between kyb-pretty soggy-i really dont think that that strut belongs on a car like ours-and something like a koni which might drive you bonkers with every day usage. the koni's are an excellent choice for an autocrosser setup. really, its the usual deal compromise where you are willing to get the performance you want. also in the application guide the good kyb's are offered for the 93 and up camaros-not ours
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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Well, we gotta use the GR-2 struts up front and in back, or just up front with the Gas-A-Justs in the back. So maybe they listed them funny. Just a thought, I havent checked, yet.
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