2400 stall
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From: Dayton, O.
Car: 91 Camaro Z28
Engine: LS7
Transmission: M12/T56
Axle/Gears: 3.79
Its your torque convertor between the flywheel and the transmission. Basically it allows you to launch your car at (about) 2400 rpm instead of the stock 1200 rpm so if you grab good and have good power you can get into your power band quicker. I got mine from Summit, it's a B&M - not exactly the best ever made but since its a lower stall speed I think it'll be OK.
when u say launch ure car u mean like hold the brake up to like 2400 rpms and the tires wont break loose and then take foot off break and punch it?? Or when u give it full throllte from a stop it jumps to 2400rpms?? Ive always been confused about torque converters.
how a torque convertor works, sort of.....
it slips a bit when you get on teh gas until it reaches a rated stall speed.
think of it this way. if you are facing up a little bit of a hill with teh car in gear, if you let your foot off the brakes if the grade of the hill is steep enough you can sit still without touching the brakes. now when you wanna move forward a little you just touch teh gas and the rpms move up a few hundred rpm but the car jus tcreeps forward. that is what the converter allows to happen, the tranny will turn at a lower speed than the engine. it is not an instant engagement by any means, it has some internal slippage that gets less and less as it is spun faster.
there is no standard for stall speed ratings really, since it has a lot to do with traction, engine power, adn the weight of the vehicle.
most companies use an engine with about 300-350ft/lbs of torque and a sample weight that woudl represent about 3400lbs car.
the stall speed can be rated 2 ways against this scale as well.
foot brake method is what you are talking about, how high an rpm can it go before teh wheels will turn or the car pushes forward.
flash rating, this is more commonly used. that is counting on just nailing the gas from idle and seeing what rpm it hits before the car starts moving.
the difference can be a lot between the two with teh same converter in teh same car. my 2000 stall convertor that i went 14.s's with i could foot brake to about 1700, but if i nailed the gas from idle it woudl flash to around 2200.
the higher stall speed, and having it matched to teh power band of your car, will allow the car to do more of it's initial acceleration in a stronger part of the torque band. with traction this means better 60ft times and better et's. you will not see much of a change in trap speeds with increased stall, just a "quicker" car.
there are a lot fo ways to pick the "right" stall speed too. i woudl prefer we not open that can of worms here, i think that is better left to the drag racing board.
hope this helps.
later
tim
it slips a bit when you get on teh gas until it reaches a rated stall speed.
think of it this way. if you are facing up a little bit of a hill with teh car in gear, if you let your foot off the brakes if the grade of the hill is steep enough you can sit still without touching the brakes. now when you wanna move forward a little you just touch teh gas and the rpms move up a few hundred rpm but the car jus tcreeps forward. that is what the converter allows to happen, the tranny will turn at a lower speed than the engine. it is not an instant engagement by any means, it has some internal slippage that gets less and less as it is spun faster.
there is no standard for stall speed ratings really, since it has a lot to do with traction, engine power, adn the weight of the vehicle.
most companies use an engine with about 300-350ft/lbs of torque and a sample weight that woudl represent about 3400lbs car.
the stall speed can be rated 2 ways against this scale as well.
foot brake method is what you are talking about, how high an rpm can it go before teh wheels will turn or the car pushes forward.
flash rating, this is more commonly used. that is counting on just nailing the gas from idle and seeing what rpm it hits before the car starts moving.
the difference can be a lot between the two with teh same converter in teh same car. my 2000 stall convertor that i went 14.s's with i could foot brake to about 1700, but if i nailed the gas from idle it woudl flash to around 2200.
the higher stall speed, and having it matched to teh power band of your car, will allow the car to do more of it's initial acceleration in a stronger part of the torque band. with traction this means better 60ft times and better et's. you will not see much of a change in trap speeds with increased stall, just a "quicker" car.
there are a lot fo ways to pick the "right" stall speed too. i woudl prefer we not open that can of worms here, i think that is better left to the drag racing board.
hope this helps.
later
tim
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