2.73 to 3.42?
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Car: 2002 Z28
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i gained like 6 tenths and 6MPH from 3.73s, posi, tbichips.com stage 1 chip, and a crank pulley. Im guessing the gears were good for at least 5 tenths of that.
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From: Portland, OR www.cascadecrew.org
Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
i lost 1 tenth going from 3.08's to 3.42's. my MPH stayed about the same. but for where i am going 3.42's or steeper is what i need.
i am sure this is going to rehash the gear argument that has been going on in this board for a while, do some reading, and make your own descision on gears.
i am sure this is going to rehash the gear argument that has been going on in this board for a while, do some reading, and make your own descision on gears.
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From: Tulsa, OK
Car: 1989 Formula WS6
Engine: L03 305 TBI
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt; 3.42 Posi
i picked up almost 6 tenths going from 3.08s to 3.42s. (best of 16.59 before, best of 15.94 after). going from 3.08 to 3.42 doesn't seem like much, but it makes a HUGE difference, not only in performance, but daily driving as well. i can tell you this, i wouldn't be comfortable with any more gear than this if i did any significant highway cruising.
the general rule of thumb is the more torque you have, the less gear you need. lt1s and ls1s don't make a lot of torque. that's why their base manual trans gear is a 3.42 instead of a 3.08. their performance gear is a 3.73 while a 3rd gen's was 3.42. both tbi and tpi make much more torque in relation to horsepower than 4th gens. 4th gens remain streetable with those stiffer gears because they have that 6th gear.
the general rule of thumb is the more torque you have, the less gear you need. lt1s and ls1s don't make a lot of torque. that's why their base manual trans gear is a 3.42 instead of a 3.08. their performance gear is a 3.73 while a 3rd gen's was 3.42. both tbi and tpi make much more torque in relation to horsepower than 4th gens. 4th gens remain streetable with those stiffer gears because they have that 6th gear.
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From: Portland, OR www.cascadecrew.org
Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
yes, IMHO, and i have said it before, 3.73's are too much gear for most of our cars. in stcok form
i think that 3.23's are a great one, 3.42's are a good choice, especialy if you plan on any mods.
i think that 3.23's are a great one, 3.42's are a good choice, especialy if you plan on any mods.
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Originally posted by seanof30306
the general rule of thumb is the more torque you have, the less gear you need. lt1s and ls1s don't make a lot of torque. that's why their base manual trans gear is a 3.42 instead of a 3.08. their performance gear is a 3.73 while a 3rd gen's was 3.42. both tbi and tpi make much more torque in relation to horsepower than 4th gens. 4th gens remain streetable with those stiffer gears because they have that 6th gear.
the general rule of thumb is the more torque you have, the less gear you need. lt1s and ls1s don't make a lot of torque. that's why their base manual trans gear is a 3.42 instead of a 3.08. their performance gear is a 3.73 while a 3rd gen's was 3.42. both tbi and tpi make much more torque in relation to horsepower than 4th gens. 4th gens remain streetable with those stiffer gears because they have that 6th gear.
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Engine: 350, Vortecs, 650DP
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Axle/Gears: 8.5", 3.42
Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
There is no performance gear for 4th gens. Any M6 car came with the 3.42's.
There is no performance gear for 4th gens. Any M6 car came with the 3.42's.
And my '94 Z28 came with a T56 and 3.23 gears. The 3.42 was an option, but only with the 1LE package.
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Originally posted by AJ_92RS
Yes there is. The 93's could be had with a 3.73 rear gear if ordered that way.
And my '94 Z28 came with a T56 and 3.23 gears. The 3.42 was an option, but only with the 1LE package.
Yes there is. The 93's could be had with a 3.73 rear gear if ordered that way.
And my '94 Z28 came with a T56 and 3.23 gears. The 3.42 was an option, but only with the 1LE package.
Originally posted by AJ_92RS
Yes there is. The 93's could be had with a 3.73 rear gear if ordered that way.
And my '94 Z28 came with a T56 and 3.23 gears. The 3.42 was an option, but only with the 1LE package.
Yes there is. The 93's could be had with a 3.73 rear gear if ordered that way.
And my '94 Z28 came with a T56 and 3.23 gears. The 3.42 was an option, but only with the 1LE package.
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My bad. The autos were the ones that came with the 3.23 optional from the 2.73
I used to sell these things back in '94-'95 in which '94 was the change over years from the '93.
Plus that was 10 yrs ago that I sold them.
I found this which should help.
Year Model/Optn 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final
---- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----
1993 Manual/M28 3.36 2.07 1.35 1.00 0.80 0.62 2.73 (GU2)
1993 Manual/M29 2.97 2.07 1.43 1.00 0.80 0.62 3.23 (GU4)
1993 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 2.73 (GU2)
1993 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 3.23 (GU5)
1994 Manual/MN6 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 0.74 0.50 3.42 (GU6)
1994 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 2.73 (GU2)
1994 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 3.23 (GU5)
The '95s and later have the same ratios as the '94s. Aside from the CAGS provision and different gearing/input shaft (on the post 93's), all of the 6-speed transmissions are basically the same.
There was a way to get the 3.73, and I'm pretty sure it was with the 1LE option.
I used to sell these things back in '94-'95 in which '94 was the change over years from the '93.
Plus that was 10 yrs ago that I sold them.

I found this which should help.
Year Model/Optn 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final
---- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----
1993 Manual/M28 3.36 2.07 1.35 1.00 0.80 0.62 2.73 (GU2)
1993 Manual/M29 2.97 2.07 1.43 1.00 0.80 0.62 3.23 (GU4)
1993 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 2.73 (GU2)
1993 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 3.23 (GU5)
1994 Manual/MN6 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 0.74 0.50 3.42 (GU6)
1994 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 2.73 (GU2)
1994 Auto/MX0 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70 -- -- 3.23 (GU5)
The '95s and later have the same ratios as the '94s. Aside from the CAGS provision and different gearing/input shaft (on the post 93's), all of the 6-speed transmissions are basically the same.
There was a way to get the 3.73, and I'm pretty sure it was with the 1LE option.
Last edited by AJ_92RS; Dec 25, 2003 at 01:21 PM.
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I've heard that, but not because the gears were 3.73's.
The main reason is because of some manufactures. They concentrate on making the ring and pinion gear strong more than making them quiet.
Another problem is because of sloppy installation. If the backlash and depth of how much the gears mesh isn't done just right, there's usually excessive noise.
The main reason is because of some manufactures. They concentrate on making the ring and pinion gear strong more than making them quiet.
Another problem is because of sloppy installation. If the backlash and depth of how much the gears mesh isn't done just right, there's usually excessive noise.
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
that, and your driveshaft is spinning that much faster.
i put an LS1 shaft on, with richmond 3.42's (they are not that loud, but he flowmasters may just drownd it out.) i can verify that it is silky smooth up to about 130.
i put an LS1 shaft on, with richmond 3.42's (they are not that loud, but he flowmasters may just drownd it out.) i can verify that it is silky smooth up to about 130.
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