just wondering

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1988 GTA 5.7L Auto
355 ci. block, SLP Cold Air Intake w/ K&N, fully modified MAF Sensor, TPIS 52mm Throttle Body w/Air Foil, Throttle Body Bypass Hose, Fully Ported and Polished Plenum, Nikel-plated Ported SLP Siamesed Runners, Ported TPIS Big Mouth Intake Manifold, stock heads w/ 1.52 Comp Cams Self-aligning Roller Rockers, TPIS ZZ-9 Roller Camshaft, TPIS Valve Springs, Cloyes True Double Roller Timing Chain, TPIS Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, Balanced Bosch 22 lb/hr Fuel Injectors, MSD 6AL, Taylor 10mm Wires, Bosch Platinum +4 Spark Plugs, MSD Blaster Coil, March Underdrive Pulleys, 6 3/4" Vibratech Streetdamper, TPIS Level 3 PROM, 160 T-stat, Low Temp. Fan Switch, Stock Distributor w/ Bronze Gear, SLP 1 3/4" Headers, Random Technologies High Flow Cat., Adjustable Borla Cat Back Exhaust, Level 10 PTS-3 700R4 Trans, B&M Holeshot 2400 Stall Converter, B&M Trans Cooler, TCI Aluminum Finned Trans Pan, Torque Converter Lock Up Switch, 3" Balanced Aluminum Driveshaft, 3.73 Richmond Gears, Auburn Pro-Series Differential, LPE Aluminum Differential Cover w/ Main Cap Preloads, BF Goodrich Drag Radials, Hotchkis Lower Control Arms, Hotchkis Panhard Rod, Hotchkis Tie Rod Adjuster Sleeves, Bilstein Heavy Duty Shocks and Struts, 1LE Springs, Energy Suspension Polyeurethane Bushings, Global West Tubular Subframe Connectors, Global West Steering Box Brace, HP Motorsports 3 Point Strut Tower Brace

"Why ride a stang when birds can fly?"

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/thegta" TARGET=_blank>My GTA</A>

there was a guy around here that went by "Wakko92RS" who claimed low 13s N/A and like mid-high 12s at like 114mph on nitrous he had trick flow heads and the holley intake and TB

I think Jprevost (?) ran like a 13.3 with what he has


Not too many tbi people are into modding their cars like the tpi crowd unfortunately

very unfortunate.

check my sig. it's not the best but it is pretty good.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers
http://www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

I think it should be noted that tim is doing that on the STOCK CAM

the peanut cam!


Judging by all the LT1s and cobras ive raced lately i should be low 14s high 13s myself, just have the top end done

i should be in the mid to high 13s after i get my gears, tires,a nd chip this spring. i have raced many a 4th gen that ran high 13s and kept with them. and thats with a stock chip and peg legged 2.73s with NO traction.

-brian

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1991 Camaro RS - Ultra Blue Metallic, T-Tops
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GM 350 HO Crate Engine - Vortec Heads, Edelbrock Performer Vortec Intake, Holley 670 CFM Throttle Body, Open Air Cleaner w/14"x3" K&N, SLP 1 3/4" Stainless Headers, Edelbrock Victor Series Water Pump, MSD 6AL, Blaster Coil, 8.5mm Super Conductors, Accel Cap and Rotor, Hypertech Fan Switch & Thermomaster Chip, AC Delco Rapidfires, 3" Cat Back, Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler

700R4 - 2,400 Stall Converter, Vette Servo, Shift Kit, B&M Super Cooler

Brian's 1991 RS
Central NY F-Body Association
Join the Third Generation F-Body TBI Web Ring
z28boy@twcny.rr.com IM name: Z28 Boy

Did a string of 13.7s at 99.99, witha 84 firebird with a cross fire, 747 ecm.

Well, when bandimere opens I'll let you know. I expect to run 16 flat at first Maybe 15.8 or so even. But then again I'm at 5800ft and pushing a 4400lb car.

After the 400 and a little boost, I hope to get into the 13's up here. That'd be the low 12's high 11's at altitude.

Kelly 'GhoSSt' Rosato

See Sig.

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'83 Trans Am. 400 CID, 224/234 crane cam, Summit aluminum roller rockers, hand ported intake, home bored 2.09" (53mm) throttle bodies, MSD 454 injectors(75 lb/hr), Holley 255LPH fuel pump, custum modded FPR w/Vacuum port added, Edelbrock TES headers, empty cat, SLP 3" stainless steel cat back, stock ECM & chip. Borg/Warner T-5 World Class, 12" Corvette rotors and clipers, GTA 16" wheels, South Side Machine subframe connectors, 1LE sway bars, 3.45 ring and pinion, Alpine sound.
Best E.T. 13.532
Best MPH 102.24

Ignore - double post

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited December 22, 2000).]

Hey GhoSSt - Where exactly in Colorado do you live? Obvously somewhere near me since I am only a couple miles away from Bandimere. BTW what does your ride look like? Maybe I have seen you.

Replying to the topic - I have no idea.

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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood

Wasn't anything groundpounding, but my first and only time to a dragstrip, i ripped off the time below in my sig. Couln't get any traction, I'm sure I could've planted high 15's if I could. Thinking about some 295x60's for the rear and some traction bars.

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EVILFACE
"Never scared of the things men fear"

http://www.evilface.com/evilscamaro.htm

88 Camaro
Stock 305 TBI Auto,
Flowmaster Muffler, Full 3" Exhaust, B&M Megashifter
Runs A Blistering 16.5 @ 81.5 mph

Pablo, I am going to buy u a G-Tech for Christmas. How accurate are those G-Techs anyways? I heard there mph is a little off but has anyone ever done the G-tech and then the track and compared the 2? I am getting one in March probably for the spring to see what my car runs. I am praying for high 14's. Hey, what did Shane's 355 run with TBI on it?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

I'm in Brighton now, I used to live on Greenmountain in Lakewood tho. I drove my 1996 SS all last season tho, gray/green ran 14.6's usually. Pretty tough.

Kelly 'GhoSSt' Rosato

I haven't been able to get to the track, but now that the car is almost ready to go they're closed . Anyways, I can hang easily with LS1's. That's with a 2 1/4 inch stock catback and open 3.73's. I raced an SS when I had 2.73's and it was close then too. I'm guessing low 13's. Maybe 12's if I can get a posi rear and some traction.

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88 firebird formula
350 Vortec TBI
214int/224exh, .471int/.491exh
Edelbrock headers
SIX-speed
open 3.73's
2 1/4 stock catback
I love pissing those LS1's off
My Formula

I have an 89 RS (see mods below) that I haven't tried at the track yet, but it kicked a friend's 95 Cobra's a$$ Tuesday. He ran a 14.70something a about a month ago, but this was on the street, and I hooked a lot better than he and it was real close. I'm not sure if I would have beat him,had he hooked up a little better, but nonetheless, I still got braggin' rights -- He says he wants a rematch after Christmas, so he must be getting something "good" in his stocking.
I ran my car when it was bone stock, and it went 15.68 @ 88, and I'm thinking maybe high 14's now, I let you know in a few weeks for sure.

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82 Z28 350, Ported #882 Heads, Performer RPM cam and intake, hedman headers,650 Demon carb,
Trans: Turbo 350 w/ 4000 stall -- Rearend 7.5 w/ Richmond 4.10's, Auburn Minispool
Future plans: Dart headed, Roller cammed 383 in early '01


89 RS, L03 305, Hypertech Chip,cat delete, Dynomax exhaust,K&N open element Filter,160 stat, MSD coil --Trans:700R4 Corvette Servo -- Rearend: 7.5 GM 3.42 w/ posi-lock
http://www.bassettracing.cz28.com

13.92@104mph

At the time I had 305 manifolds, 2 1/2 inch exhaust, Nitto DR's, Dynomax Super Turbo muffler, somewhat modified TBI unit (Rochester), not much else. The engine is a 327 BTW.

Now I have:
327, WC T-5, Posi 3.73, SLP 1 5/8" headers, 3" exhauts with no cat, Flowmaster 80, Torker 2 intake manifold, big cam,Fast Burn heads, and some other little things
Hoping for 12's next spring.

haha Ill be waiting for it

I just ordered a powertrax locker today so ill be heading to the track within two weeks now


shane ran a 13.6 with vortec heads, 214/224 cam, holley intake manifold

he later installed a torker, and 224/234 cam

I think he only got 1/8 mile times but said it got way faster

hey evilface, i wouldn't suggest those giant tires yer lookin at, look for some more grippy tires not just bigger ones. the taller a tire is the more it effects the gear advantage of the rear. if you stick to a stock, 25.7" tall tire, or close to stock drag radial, nitto and bfg both make tires between 25.5" and 26" tall, you will gain more from that than just buying the most giant tire you can fit.
once you have the tires, look into getting a posi and some good gears for a big gain.

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers
http://www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

Evilface, u must have some pretty bald tires to have such a bad traction problem. I would try new tires first. You don't really need slicks for ur engine at this point. It just doesn't create that much tq at this stage in the engine. I would get them for the 350 u are looking into though. Then u would need them.

91Bird305,
I have very similar mods to you and I just got a g-tech and ran it last night and the best I got was 14.97 at 95. How accurate are they?(anyone) because I did some tuning and it felt a little faster but not that much. I was vey suprised, who else has experiance with the g-tech?

YOU RAN A 14.97! AND U HAVE SIMILAR MODS TO ME??!! WHOHOOOO! Maybe I will break into 14's then. Sorry, that was my goal with my engine. Not get to deep into it and be able to get into 14's. The G-tech's are pretty accurate with the 1/4 mile but are usually about 2-3mph off. I am getting one in March for my b-day i guess. What have u done to ur car that I don't have? What kind of tuning did u do? (plugs,wires,afpr?) Thanks

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

I have actually ran my car down the track with the G-tech on to see for myself and the time slip and G-tech numbers were exact. The mph was exact too. Everyone that was there that day could not believe how accurate it was, including me, but maybe this will answer some of your questions...

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91 Camaro TPI, 355ci. Sportsman 11 heads, LT-4 Hot cam,Pete Jackson gear drive, on,and on, and on... 13.6 @ 102.5 with a 2:73 open rear, no traction, no tuning, no practice.

91Bird305,
The only thing that is different between our cars is mine is a 5-speed with 3.08 posi and I don't have a strut tower brace or a tb spacer. I'm running 6* advanced, and not sure about the fuel press I have a guage but I haven't put it in yet. When I ran the 14.97 it was late at night and about 50* out. During the day yesterday all I could do was 15.2 at 92

By the way I just reacently uped the fuel pressure from when I smogged it and put the headers and exaust on, when I checked my plugs they were really white. When I changed it it felt like a big differance.

Zac Splding

checking your plugs at anything other than WOT is sorta meaningless

if you wanna do a real plug read what you need to do is go WOT and cut out the motor at the rpm you wanna look at , it has to be in high gear to load the motor like second or third in a 700r4

say you wanna see how rich or lean it is at 4000 run it up to 4000 and cut out the ignition (find a deserted road) and throw it into neutral and park on the side
get your glove on and pull out the plug
the plug should be pretyt much white if you see any black on it its rich, and if you see any specs of stuff that look like fly turds that means you are knocking, if you look deep in the plug it should fade to a tan color


pulling the plug from idle (which is what youare doing if you just park and pull it out) is gonna show you a 14.7:1 mixture which is obviously very clean
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/readplugs.htm

this is a great article to help you out

check my signature for time. This is with the original 305 TBI with 95k miles. Motor is stock except for the intake.

Mark

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1991 305 TBI Paxton SN2000,Edelbrock intake and TES, Turbo city TBI,
MSD6a,Eibach drag lauch kit, Hotchkis RTAs and panhard rod, Richmond 3:73 gears and Auburn limited slip, best ET 12.90 @ 108 mph

whats up new to this site but heres my mods and times:
Edelbrock TES Headers,Flowmaster 80series muffler, gutted cat, hypertech thermomaster,
160 thermostat, March underdrive pulleys, transgo shift kit, richmond GM 3.42 gears, auburn posi unit, edelbrock performer TBI intake, edelbrock performer TBI cam kit,edelbrock performer heads, comp cams 1.6 roller tip rockers, throttle body .5 spacer, k&n filtercharger, k&n X-treme flow top plate, summit high volume oil pump, edelbrock mechanical fuel pump, Holley 58mm high flow throttle body, edlebrock victor series waterpump, accel 300+ race wires, Pertronix Flame thrower coil, B&M Holeshot 2400 torque converter, ssm traction bars, 120 shot of nitrous.
13.247@103.38mph w/out nitrous
12.325@114.19mph w/nitrous

I took the RS to the track this weekend and she ran a best 15.03 @ 92.7 This was on a set of M/T ET Streets, no burnout, and 20# of pressure - I tried 22# once but it began to spin that high. I really wanted to break the 14 sec barrier, but this has made me feel pretty good about the car. Next weekend, I'm going to install the the Hedman Hedders and Y pipe that I used to run on the 82. I hoping for 14.80's or maybe .70's since I still have the stock manifolds as of now. For no more than I have done to the car I'm fairly impressed



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82 Z28 350, Ported #882 Heads, Performer RPM cam and intake, hedman headers,650 Demon carb,
Trans: Turbo 350 w/ 4000 stall -- Rearend 7.5 w/ Richmond 4.10's, Auburn Minispool
Best ET: 12.52@107.2
Future plans: Dart headed, Roller cammed 383 in early '01


89 RS, L03 305, Hypertech Chip,cat delete, Dynomax exhaust,K&N open element Filter,160 stat, MSD coil --Trans:700R4 Corvette Servo -- Rearend: 7.5 GM 3.42 w/ posi-lock
New Best ET: 15.03@92.7
http://www.bassettracing.cz28.com

HOLY SH*T 91bluebird305TBI!!!!!

Well u have done just about everything haven't ya? You will be a big help to this board since a lot of people don't have nearly as much stuff done to ur car like u do. Do u have any pics of ur engine or ride? I would love to see it.


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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

im in the process of finishing my site but i still gotta finish doing more to the beast
I like youre car though nice site

Well ur times will be the talk of every conversation when people ask about 1/4 mile times for 305 tbi's. Thanks, if u ever want a picture to post or somethin just e-mail me. I can put a couple on my site for ya.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

Thats were I'd like to be Bluebird305!! I noticed you said it had a high volume pump, so I assuming its been built. What pistons are you running? That is a killer timeslip. 114 mph is UNREAL,What kind of 60' times are you getting with that thing???

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82 Z28 350, Ported #882 Heads, Performer RPM cam and intake, hedman headers,650 Demon carb,
Trans: Turbo 350 w/ 4000 stall -- Rearend 7.5 w/ Richmond 4.10's, Auburn Minispool
Best ET: 12.52@107.2
Future plans: Dart headed, Roller cammed 383 in early '01


89 RS, L03 305, Hypertech Chip,cat delete, Dynomax exhaust,K&N open element Filter,160 stat, MSD coil --Trans:700R4 Corvette Servo -- Rearend: 7.5 GM 3.42 w/ posi-lock
New Best ET: 15.03@92.7 http://www.bassettracing.cz28.com

[This message has been edited by Basett Racing (edited January 02, 2001).]

ive got a camaro. 1988. A stock vortec 350 from a yukan truck, I pulled the intake and installed a performer rpm, and a tb adapter plate to a 454 throttle body with stock injectors pushing 14 #s of pressure controlled by a stock 305 computer chip.
the setup is mated to a c/s 700r4 and stock rear {posi}. pulling to 5300 rpm, the car runs 13.80 @ 100 or better, Im always playing with the setup, timing and so forth

by the way did i mention its a convertible,, seeya on the road......

ive seen badbrds car in person its niiiice

btw welcome to the board Javi! bout time you showed up the more racers the better

Sweet a new memb. Nice to meet ya and u sound like u have a sweet *** ride!

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

91Blue is running the cam I am dyno'ing/PROM'ing now. At 245hp w/350cid and 1.5 rockers...

Bluebird confused me: "Holley 58mm high flow throttle body"

"edelbrock mechanical fuel pump" WTF???


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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6
[soon to be Performace Red =) ]

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

Super GRK_Taz World
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz
ICQ 82881207

Sweet setup bluebird! One question: why a mechanical fuel pump?

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"Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting." - Steve McQueen - LeMans

305 TBI, T-5. 15.4@92 mph
Member Southern California Third Gen F-Bodies

AOL IM: Andy89RS

I just got a '91 RS last week. I can't believe how much slower it is than my '85 Z28! The RS has 74000 miles on it and is in excellent condition. What mods will really wake up a TBI 305?

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'68 Camaro - Vortec 350
'85 Camaro Z28 - 305 TPI
'91 Camaro RS - 305 TBI

Joe,
My car ran high 16's when it was stock 3 years ago. Now after 2 and a half years of paychecks, a 355, modified TBI unit, 2800 stall converter, auburn posi, adn 3.73's, i was able to get a 13.2 @ 101mph. but i hope to swtich to TPI now that I have a doner car and get into the 12's.
good luck with your car.

Yeah Tom, u will be in 12's for sure.

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited January 05, 2001).]

Hey Z28Maniac, I made a small site on all the mods I did and what was good and bad about them and some stuff to help u to get your engine moving quicker. All the mods listed in my sig I talk about and some tech tips to help u out. Go there and see if it helps at all. Its the second site in my sig.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html