Emissions woes
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From: Little Elm, TX
Car: 13 Ford Focus SE / 90 Camaro RS
Engine: 122 I4 / 305 V8
Transmission: DCT / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.895 / 2.73
Emissions woes
Here's my situation (for those who want it). I own a '90 RS 305 TBI that has as of right now 237,812 original miles on the engine/chassis and I'm trying to get my emissions to pass to get a current inspection.
My first attempt was doing absolutely nothing to improve any reading--I ran it as-is. I pass the safety (I worked at the place so I'll always pass the safety lol) and the high speed emissions (25mph).
3/27/2007 emission test results
High Speed (25mph) -- Low Speed (15mph)
Readings: reading need to pass/my reading [if failed will use red] [if pass will use green]
HC 148/147 -- 152/250
CO 0.94/0.51 -- 0.86/2.73
NOx 1047/488 -- 1146/730
Next test after I do the following; replace distributor cap, plus wires, plugs, intake cleaner through the vaccuum line, premium fuel, and clean up the air breather and all intake tubes around the throttle body.
4/04/2007 emission test results
High Speed (25mph) -- Low Speed (15mph)
Readings: reading need to pass/my reading [if failed will use red] [if pass will use green]
HC 148/134 -- 152/242
CO 0.94/0.10 -- 0.86/1.53
NOx 1047/497 -- 1146/594
So as you can see I still need work to pass the HC and CO. Any suggestions? I know that replacing the EGR valve will most likely effect NOx and not HC or CO. CO tells me that maybe there is an exhaust leak of some kind? I'm not real knowledgable in this area so I need some assistance.
My first attempt was doing absolutely nothing to improve any reading--I ran it as-is. I pass the safety (I worked at the place so I'll always pass the safety lol) and the high speed emissions (25mph).
3/27/2007 emission test results
High Speed (25mph) -- Low Speed (15mph)
Readings: reading need to pass/my reading [if failed will use red] [if pass will use green]
HC 148/147 -- 152/250
CO 0.94/0.51 -- 0.86/2.73
NOx 1047/488 -- 1146/730
Next test after I do the following; replace distributor cap, plus wires, plugs, intake cleaner through the vaccuum line, premium fuel, and clean up the air breather and all intake tubes around the throttle body.
4/04/2007 emission test results
High Speed (25mph) -- Low Speed (15mph)
Readings: reading need to pass/my reading [if failed will use red] [if pass will use green]
HC 148/134 -- 152/242
CO 0.94/0.10 -- 0.86/1.53
NOx 1047/497 -- 1146/594
So as you can see I still need work to pass the HC and CO. Any suggestions? I know that replacing the EGR valve will most likely effect NOx and not HC or CO. CO tells me that maybe there is an exhaust leak of some kind? I'm not real knowledgable in this area so I need some assistance.
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Re: Emissions woes
Von Kaiser
It is probably your CAT - if it is original have it R&R. HC is high for both speeds. Did you get remainning oxygen percentage as well?
EGR begins to operate at higher road speeds - (got to check for that)
//RF
It is probably your CAT - if it is original have it R&R. HC is high for both speeds. Did you get remainning oxygen percentage as well?
EGR begins to operate at higher road speeds - (got to check for that)
//RF
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: The Wicked six'ah
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock 3.08's
Re: Emissions woes
Sea Foam, I was running about the same Numbers on the 2nd test you have. I ran Seafoam through the carb and vac lines.. (1983 Camaro Berlinetta 305) I also had the original cat. But Try running some Sea Foam through the engine. Give it a Good dose, and you'll prob. pass.. If you dont know what sea foam is or where to get it, Its a Advance Auto and VIP. And prob. Napa.. Look around at the local Parts stores.. 240,000 Miles, Man, I can only imagine the carbon build up on the valves.. Get some sea foam, and let us/me know how you made out!
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Oh, BTW, You dont want to run the sea foam During the test! Some where out of the city/town your gonna wanna be away from civilization.. Because the Petrolium (Seafoam) Breaks up the carbon and turns it into a gas.. Blue Smoke... and the more miles on the motor the more its gonna smoke, because theres so much carbon in the motor/Cat.
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Oh, BTW, You dont want to run the sea foam During the test! Some where out of the city/town your gonna wanna be away from civilization.. Because the Petrolium (Seafoam) Breaks up the carbon and turns it into a gas.. Blue Smoke... and the more miles on the motor the more its gonna smoke, because theres so much carbon in the motor/Cat.
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Car: 83 POS monte carlo 2015 chevy P/U
Engine: 92 5.7 tpi 5.3
Transmission: 700r4 6L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.42 too high
Re: Emissions woes
was it fully warmed up?
make sure the AIR injection isn't putting air to the exhaust manifolds after its warmed up.
a weak cat is a possibility.
make sure your O2 sensor is good, if its more than 2~3 years old its probably getting sluggish.
not knowing what the cat is doing, it looks like its running a little rich on the low speed test.
if you can, try running a training mode test & then without turning the motor off run it a second time & see what readings you get.
make sure the AIR injection isn't putting air to the exhaust manifolds after its warmed up.
a weak cat is a possibility.
make sure your O2 sensor is good, if its more than 2~3 years old its probably getting sluggish.
not knowing what the cat is doing, it looks like its running a little rich on the low speed test.
if you can, try running a training mode test & then without turning the motor off run it a second time & see what readings you get.
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From: Little Elm, TX
Car: 13 Ford Focus SE / 90 Camaro RS
Engine: 122 I4 / 305 V8
Transmission: DCT / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.895 / 2.73
Re: Emissions woes
Need to do the cheap fixes first. Sea Foam, I was running about the same Numbers on the 2nd test you have. I ran Seafoam through the carb and vac lines.. (1983 Camaro Berlinetta 305) I also had the original cat. But Try running some Sea Foam through the engine. Give it a Good dose, and you'll prob. pass.. If you dont know what sea foam is or where to get it, Its a Advance Auto and VIP. And prob. Napa.. Look around at the local Parts stores.. 240,000 Miles, Man, I can only imagine the carbon build up on the valves.. Get some sea foam, and let us/me know how you made out!
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Oh, BTW, You dont want to run the sea foam During the test! Some where out of the city/town your gonna wanna be away from civilization.. Because the Petrolium (Seafoam) Breaks up the carbon and turns it into a gas.. Blue Smoke... and the more miles on the motor the more its gonna smoke, because theres so much carbon in the motor/Cat.
----------
Oh, BTW, You dont want to run the sea foam During the test! Some where out of the city/town your gonna wanna be away from civilization.. Because the Petrolium (Seafoam) Breaks up the carbon and turns it into a gas.. Blue Smoke... and the more miles on the motor the more its gonna smoke, because theres so much carbon in the motor/Cat.
was it fully warmed up?
make sure the AIR injection isn't putting air to the exhaust manifolds after its warmed up.
a weak cat is a possibility.
make sure your O2 sensor is good, if its more than 2~3 years old its probably getting sluggish.
not knowing what the cat is doing, it looks like its running a little rich on the low speed test.
if you can, try running a training mode test & then without turning the motor off run it a second time & see what readings you get.
make sure the AIR injection isn't putting air to the exhaust manifolds after its warmed up.
a weak cat is a possibility.
make sure your O2 sensor is good, if its more than 2~3 years old its probably getting sluggish.
not knowing what the cat is doing, it looks like its running a little rich on the low speed test.
if you can, try running a training mode test & then without turning the motor off run it a second time & see what readings you get.
Thanks for the help guys.
I'll report back next week when I go for another inspection test. I'll have to pay for another one because I accidently let my 15-day free retest time limit expire.
I'm almost tempted to just either BUY a sticker or get someone to somehow "pass" my car's emissions. *cough*
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Re: Emissions woes
with co numbers that high i would say cat. conv. deffinately.
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From: Little Elm, TX
Car: 13 Ford Focus SE / 90 Camaro RS
Engine: 122 I4 / 305 V8
Transmission: DCT / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.895 / 2.73
Re: Emissions woes
I should know tomorrow whether or not my car passes emissions. I'll post my results when I find out.
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