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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Faster warm up

Basically, I would like to the car to warm up faster.

The temperature gauge works, verified on ebl. I don't believe the thermostat is defective, because eventually it reaches minimum operation temperature (180 degrees F).

Some of the modifications, I have done do effect the pace at which the car warms up. I have a hybrid tpi/ Cadillac intake (with no thermac prevision) and no longer have an ac condenser in front of the radiator.

I am moderately confident the only modifications that I should pursue are ebl code related. I expect that I can change timing and fuel tables to warm the engine up faster, but I have not done enough research to find the specific changes necessary. Anyone have some insight on this?
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Re: Faster warm up

YOu could put in a 195stat for winter. You may also be able to modify the cold timing spark table and add in a little bit of timing to get things a little hotter when the engine is cold. How long does it take to warm up now?? Are you running a clutch fan or electric??
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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Re: Faster warm up

Replace that exhaust flange spacer with a working efe valve. That will block exhaust flow on the passenger side and cause engine to warm up alot quicker ... well, providing you have it on your car.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Faster warm up

Look at the 'SA - Coolant Comp Spark Advance' table. In the stock calibration the area of 32 - 68 C, 40 - 30 KPa VAC is low. This pulls timing to dump heat into the engine and exhaust. You may be able to re-work this table to better suit your needs.

Hopefully you haven't drilled a bunch of holes in the thermostat (seems a lot of folks recommend that). Doing so bypasses a lot of water. Only need one 1/16" - 3/32" hole to bleed air.

Also check that the fan isn't coming on at too low a temperature.

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Re: Faster warm up

Originally Posted by RBob
Look at the 'SA - Coolant Comp Spark Advance' table. In the stock calibration the area of 32 - 68 C, 40 - 30 KPa VAC is low. This pulls timing to dump heat into the engine and exhaust. You may be able to re-work this table to better suit your needs.

Hopefully you haven't drilled a bunch of holes in the thermostat (seems a lot of folks recommend that). Doing so bypasses a lot of water. Only need one 1/16" - 3/32" hole to bleed air.

Also check that the fan isn't coming on at too low a temperature.

RBob.
It is an un-drilled thermostat. I think I understand my problem now. Before I had added timing thinking it would warm up faster, but instead I should have removed timing.

Electric fan is coming on at the prescribed 210 degrees F.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Re: Faster warm up

Here is a datalog from today. Obviously I need to work on the OL fueling tables as the engine roams a bit when cool. And for some reason the motor dies as I'm pulling into my driveway at 9:04.

Couldn't figure an easy way to post, so I choose to link it
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/36850/50-dat.html
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