going carb
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going carb
im not sure what area to post this in but im going to be swapping my tbi all over to a holley set up. i have a street dominator intake its a pre 87 style(i got this for free) and a holley 650 carb(got it when i traded this guy a tach). currently the carb needs a rebuild so im waiting on the kit. the last few things i am going to need i know are new intake gaskets a fuel pressure regulator probably fuel lines and most importantly a distributor.
my questions are on the wiring to the distributor what do i do there? do i just cut and run the pink and white wire or something to the new dist.?
also how do i route the fuel lines? i know that may sound silly but i cant make out what the tech article is saying about the fuel lines. im just going to remove that charcoal canister as mine is all beat to hell and messed up.
other than that i pretty much got this all mapped out. as far as my timing issue i still have. im just going to remove the front acc and get that harmonic balancer off and change the timing gear and chain. when i went to try to get it off the last time i couldnt get it to come off. the crank shaft and everything was moving with it. how do i get this bad boy off? should i just beat the sh*t out of it to get it off and buy a new one?
i bought a noisy roller cam gear drive with about 6k miles on it from somebody in maine. im not sure of the brand but would that work with my stock cam? because i was looking at gear drives before and some of them said will not work with stock roller cam. i lost contact with the guy i bought it from so theres no way i will know the brand it is.
my questions are on the wiring to the distributor what do i do there? do i just cut and run the pink and white wire or something to the new dist.?
also how do i route the fuel lines? i know that may sound silly but i cant make out what the tech article is saying about the fuel lines. im just going to remove that charcoal canister as mine is all beat to hell and messed up.
other than that i pretty much got this all mapped out. as far as my timing issue i still have. im just going to remove the front acc and get that harmonic balancer off and change the timing gear and chain. when i went to try to get it off the last time i couldnt get it to come off. the crank shaft and everything was moving with it. how do i get this bad boy off? should i just beat the sh*t out of it to get it off and buy a new one?
i bought a noisy roller cam gear drive with about 6k miles on it from somebody in maine. im not sure of the brand but would that work with my stock cam? because i was looking at gear drives before and some of them said will not work with stock roller cam. i lost contact with the guy i bought it from so theres no way i will know the brand it is.
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Re: going carb
im not sure what area to post this in but im going to be swapping my tbi all over to a holley set up. i have a street dominator intake its a pre 87 style(i got this for free) and a holley 650 carb(got it when i traded this guy a tach). currently the carb needs a rebuild so im waiting on the kit. the last few things i am going to need i know are new intake gaskets a fuel pressure regulator probably fuel lines and most importantly a distributor.
my questions are on the wiring to the distributor what do i do there? do i just cut and run the pink and white wire or something to the new dist.?
also how do i route the fuel lines? i know that may sound silly but i cant make out what the tech article is saying about the fuel lines. im just going to remove that charcoal canister as mine is all beat to hell and messed up.
other than that i pretty much got this all mapped out. as far as my timing issue i still have. im just going to remove the front acc and get that harmonic balancer off and change the timing gear and chain. when i went to try to get it off the last time i couldnt get it to come off. the crank shaft and everything was moving with it. how do i get this bad boy off? should i just beat the sh*t out of it to get it off and buy a new one?
i bought a noisy roller cam gear drive with about 6k miles on it from somebody in maine. im not sure of the brand but would that work with my stock cam? because i was looking at gear drives before and some of them said will not work with stock roller cam. i lost contact with the guy i bought it from so theres no way i will know the brand it is.
my questions are on the wiring to the distributor what do i do there? do i just cut and run the pink and white wire or something to the new dist.?
also how do i route the fuel lines? i know that may sound silly but i cant make out what the tech article is saying about the fuel lines. im just going to remove that charcoal canister as mine is all beat to hell and messed up.
other than that i pretty much got this all mapped out. as far as my timing issue i still have. im just going to remove the front acc and get that harmonic balancer off and change the timing gear and chain. when i went to try to get it off the last time i couldnt get it to come off. the crank shaft and everything was moving with it. how do i get this bad boy off? should i just beat the sh*t out of it to get it off and buy a new one?
i bought a noisy roller cam gear drive with about 6k miles on it from somebody in maine. im not sure of the brand but would that work with my stock cam? because i was looking at gear drives before and some of them said will not work with stock roller cam. i lost contact with the guy i bought it from so theres no way i will know the brand it is.
as for the fuel lines, you will need a fuel regulator to run the return fuel line into the bypass side of the regulator. with the actual fuel line from the tank to the carb, you will need a line from the cars fuel line going to the fuel regulator. after the regulator, you will most likely need a fuel gauge (depending on your carb probably). after the gauge, just run a fuel line to the carb.
i cant help you out with the timing set, but i'll try and get back to this thread a.s.a.p. about the dist. wiring for you.
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Re: going carb
ok cool thanks. and that makes enough sense and sounds easy to do.
is there a specific regulator i will need or will any brand with the 5-8 psi work?
is there a specific regulator i will need or will any brand with the 5-8 psi work?
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Use a vacuum advance hei, you need 1 wire to run it, it should be the pink/red that normally goes to the remote coil. It should plug into the hei 12v terminal, next to it is the tac terminal.
Make sure the timing set matches the cam shaft bolt pattern, they changed that on roller cams. Any part # on that set?
Make sure the timing set matches the cam shaft bolt pattern, they changed that on roller cams. Any part # on that set?
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Re: going carb
ill have to look for it everything is on the porch and its a mess of parts everywhere.
what about the harmonic balancer? i cant seem to get that dang thing off. i have to removal tool and everything the crank just keeps turning with the balancer and it wont come off. is it slowly coming off or am i not doing this right?
what about the harmonic balancer? i cant seem to get that dang thing off. i have to removal tool and everything the crank just keeps turning with the balancer and it wont come off. is it slowly coming off or am i not doing this right?
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Re: going carb
yes as i tighten the puller bolt against the crank piece the hole engine turns. i even have that pointed piece put in there but no luck. the whole thing rotates. i even tried to start it up with out that bolt it hoping it would just vibrate off but no luck.
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Re: going carb
Post a picture of your puller.
If you have a compression tester, you can remove the schrader valve, & screw it into a spark plug hole, add compressed air. My craftsman tester has the same conector that my air tools have. Turn the engine over till the valves close in that cylinder, then the engine will air lock in place. You then should be able to turn the forcing bolt on the balancer w/out the engine rotating anymore.
If you have a compression tester, you can remove the schrader valve, & screw it into a spark plug hole, add compressed air. My craftsman tester has the same conector that my air tools have. Turn the engine over till the valves close in that cylinder, then the engine will air lock in place. You then should be able to turn the forcing bolt on the balancer w/out the engine rotating anymore.
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Re: going carb
its the oem set from autozone. i heard something about vise grips on the flywheel. that sounds like a pita to do though i looked under there and i got all that suspension and framing in my way
Re: going carb
You see the square side of the puller (at the 10 o'clock position), put a wrench on that while turning the forcing bolt. Sometimes the balancer takes some force to initially break loose the balancer. Then it gets easier.
Re: going carb
i ground the original timing tab off after removing the water pump and using a mr gasket timing tab that bolted on. then bought the timing tape to put on the balancer and reisntalled the water pump. even if you go with another cover you might still have to use an aftermarket timing tab.
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Re: going carb
ok i will let you know how that goes hopefully during the week sometime and if not then definitely over the weekend. its suppose to be almost 70 saturday and sunday here in maryland.
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Re: going carb
i ground the original timing tab off after removing the water pump and using a mr gasket timing tab that bolted on. then bought the timing tape to put on the balancer and reisntalled the water pump. even if you go with another cover you might still have to use an aftermarket timing tab.
Re: going carb
thats it. and i bought timing tape for mine from summit. that way the timing and advance can be set. im still using both right now with my new tbi set up since i went back.
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Re: going carb
ill have to get that too.
when you swap yours to carb what type of intake did you use? and will the coolant temp sensor be necessary with the elimination of the ecm and all that wiring?
when you swap yours to carb what type of intake did you use? and will the coolant temp sensor be necessary with the elimination of the ecm and all that wiring?
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Re: going carb
damn that seems to be popular. so with the coolant temp sensor i just need to screw it into my new intake? and all other holes can i just put those plug screw things into them?
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Re: going carb
oh ok so i can finally get rid of all that stuff. ill have to look for something big enough to screw into those holes on my intake.
but to the other person, what do you mean put a wrench on the square side? like onto the bolt that holds it to the damper?
but to the other person, what do you mean put a wrench on the square side? like onto the bolt that holds it to the damper?
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Re: going carb
so i got to work on the car this weekend i got the wiring harness completely removed and all the **** im not using removed. now on to the questions. what are the two wires that come off the plug that goes to the alternator? i know what the red one is but what are the two thin wires too?
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