TBI Throttle Body Injection discussion and questions. L03/CFI tech and other performance enhancements.

Third Gen Newbie

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:50 PM
  #1  
Andrew_8978's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: dayton, OH
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 sbc
Transmission: 700r4
Third Gen Newbie

i bought my 89 RS LO3 for a daily / first car, runs great, i love it. but, i do have a couple questions, what mods would you suggest to add some power, but not extremely affect the mileage? and is there a place online where i can get the curved air filter stud? thanks.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:51 PM
  #2  
Andrew_8978's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: dayton, OH
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 sbc
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Third Gen Newbie

my camaro
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:00 PM
  #3  
RBob's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 18,432
Likes: 233
From: Chasing Electrons
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check
Re: Third Gen Newbie

Welcome to TGO. Your '89 looks good, nice condition.

As for performance and keeping the MPG, headers and a free flowing exhaust will help.

What not to do: no open element air cleaner, and no 160 or 180 thermostats.

Keep the 195 thermostat.

A good tune up helps, cap, rotor, spark plugs, wires. Just go with decent quality replacement parts. Such as a brass terminal cap & rotor, Autolite standard orange box plugs (#24 may the correct part), and Bosch premium spiral core spark plug wires (NAPA or Pep-boys).

Make sure that the distributor base timing is correct (0* BTDC) and done on a warmed up engine. Sometimes it can be advanced a degree or two (to 1* to 2* BTDC).

RBob.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:40 AM
  #4  
brsaye's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Car: 84 Z28
Engine: HO 305
I am a third gen newbie as well. Why would he not want to do an open air element?


Posted from Thirdgen.org App for Android
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2013 | 08:41 AM
  #5  
RBob's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 18,432
Likes: 233
From: Chasing Electrons
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check
Re: Third Gen Newbie

Originally Posted by brsaye
I am a third gen newbie as well. Why would he not want to do an open air element?
To help retain the fuel economy.

RBob.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 07:41 PM
  #6  
krackle82's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Waynesboro, TN
Re: Third Gen Newbie

I have found that indexing the spark plugs gives a little kick. Do so by marking on the ceramic where the open end of the tip is on the plug, then try it in every cylinder untill the mark, (representing the open tip of the plug) is sitting straight up (or down, Ive heard both ways, only tried one because of how long it took) Ideally the gap (or electrode) should point between the valves. It does take a while, but I noticed a difference.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 09:40 PM
  #7  
90camaro355rs's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: gladstone
Car: 72 nova/ 90 camaro rs,04 suburban
Engine: blown 327/ 355/306/355/5.3
Transmission: muncie 4 speed/T5/powerglide,4l80e
Axle/Gears: 342/411/456/ moser axles
Re: Third Gen Newbie

Originally Posted by krackle82
I have found that indexing the spark plugs gives a little kick. Do so by marking on the ceramic where the open end of the tip is on the plug, then try it in every cylinder untill the mark, (representing the open tip of the plug) is sitting straight up (or down, Ive heard both ways, only tried one because of how long it took) Ideally the gap (or electrode) should point between the valves. It does take a while, but I noticed a difference.
When we index them in drag engine we put the mark up so you can see the mark from the top.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 09:49 PM
  #8  
krackle82's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Waynesboro, TN
Re: Third Gen Newbie

90camaro355ss, Do you also adjust the heat range of the spark plugs according to egt's? I've heard of it being done to balance thermal efficiency, on OE heads, anyhow, since there are two exhaust ports right next to each other in the middle.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:11 AM
  #9  
Jk_Under's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 2
From: Paris Texas
Car: 91 Camaro RS, 84 2.8 5speed
Engine: 305 5.0L
Transmission: Auto, 5 speed
Re: Third Gen Newbie

First camaro i seen with a sunroof lol nice car, i'm not a big fan of the no spoiler but still a great looking car.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:39 AM
  #10  
Andrew_8978's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: dayton, OH
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 sbc
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Third Gen Newbie

Originally Posted by Jk_Under
First camaro i seen with a sunroof lol nice car, i'm not a big fan of the no spoiler but still a great looking car.
thanks, its aftermarket previous owner put it in, and me either i'm trying to get the money to get a spoiler
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 08:57 AM
  #11  
lonestar7's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 670
Likes: 0
From: Round Rock, TX
Car: 1988 Firbird formula 350
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27 Nine Bolt
Re: Third Gen Newbie

Welcome aboard. Nice RS, the light blue and silver go good together.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 01:25 PM
  #12  
Schurkey's Avatar
Supreme Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,589
Likes: 89
Re: Third Gen Newbie

Originally Posted by brsaye
I am a third gen newbie as well. Why would he not want to do an open air element?
Because as long ago as the late '50's or early '60s, it's been proven that hot underhood air is bad for power, and promotes detonation.

NOBODY who is serious about horsepower feeds the carb hot air.

LOTS of folks who think "intake roar" is pleasing install non-muffled air cleaners, but noise doesn't make the car go faster.

Having a heated air intake is marvelous in cold weather. Provides better fuel atomization, faster warm-up, and reduces carb icing. Once the engine is at operating temperature, hot intake air does very little that's useful. Warm- or ambient-temperature air works better. (Ambient air is as "cold" as is practical, even if it's 120F outside, unless of course you go to extreme measure such as upstream alcohol injection a la Smokey Yunich's Turbo Indy car.)

If the intake snorkel is too small for power, get a different cold-air air cleaner housing, don't install some crap aftermarket open-element housing.

Last edited by Schurkey; Apr 8, 2013 at 01:31 PM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
3
Dec 10, 2019 07:07 PM
nugentcj
Camaros Wanted
3
Dec 22, 2015 02:58 PM
my86bird
Firebirds for Sale
9
Oct 23, 2015 12:20 PM
Vassago
Convertibles
15
Sep 4, 2015 09:37 PM
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
0
Sep 2, 2015 07:28 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:23 AM.