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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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Help!! I changed the valve covers and switched to an open element air cleaner on my 87 TA with carbed 305. Now it has what sounds like chattering at WOT especially when going uphill and when it switches into third. I had to unplug several things when I changed the covers. I've looked and it appears everything is hooked back up. Is there something in particular I could have left unplugged that would do this? Or could it be another problem?
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 01:50 AM
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sounds like your timing is off, not by far though.
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 02:27 AM
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From: Somewhere around the South Side of Chicago just crusin' in one of the Niteriders
Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
I have the same setup in my 86 Camaro. I get pinging when I use regular gas. If I switch to 89 or 92 the pinging goes away. I also agree with the previous post. Check your timing. this also cause pinging on acceleration. It is one of these two I would bet. Keep the open air filter. You will notice the performance increase.
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
More than likely your EGR passages are plugged. Without that little bit of exhaust gas being introduced to cool the combustion temp, you get pinging (the timing advance curve assumes the EGR valve is working).

Changing to the open element also increased the air temp, which would exacerbate this situation. Before my mods and with an open element, I had to use mid-grade in order to run 6 degrees base timing without pinging. When I changed the intake to the one in my sig, which was new and therefore clean, I discovered these clogged EGR passages (this was done before the rest of the mods). I could then run 6 degrees and unleaded regular without pinging.

FWIW, with my current polished chamber heads and dual snorkel air cleaner, I'm running 10 degrees base timing on regular unleaded without any pinging.
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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someone told me that it could be that I unplugged the knock sensor.....does a carbed car have a knock sensor, and would this cause my problem?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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It should have a knock sensor, and it should reduce pinging. Mine, however, did not catch it all when my EGR passages were plugged.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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funny you should say it knocks at WOT. The egr is supposed to close at WOT if im not mistaken.
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