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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:12 AM
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What is the purpose of having a mild cam? Pros and cons?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:18 AM
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i think you need to better define mild.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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Sorry. A cam like mine in a 383.

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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I never could figure out why people build mismatched combinations like yours, so I can't answer your question....

There's no such thing as too much cam, only not enough motor. But you don't really have that problem.

A decent cam with no other change, except maybe valve springs, would probably give your motor 50% more HP. You have heads, exhaust, intake and carb set up for lots of mid-range power and even some decent high-RPM flow, and a cam that's barely enough for a tractor motor. That's less cam than alot of these cars came with, stock.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
I never could figure out why people build mismatched combinations like yours, so I can't answer your question....

There's no such thing as too much cam, only not enough motor. But you don't really have that problem.

A decent cam with no other change, except maybe valve springs, would probably give your motor 50% more HP. You have heads, exhaust, intake and carb set up for lots of mid-range power and even some decent high-RPM flow, and a cam that's barely enough for a tractor motor. That's less cam than alot of these cars came with, stock.
Yeah really, my Goodwrench came with a 390//410 and that is just down right horrible.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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Well, I know what I need to buy next. I appreciate your comparison to a tractor motor. Really. When the engine was built, I (with the advise of a dip $hit mechanic) kept the 305 TBI and computer. At that time I really didn't know a damn thing about cars and you can tell by how I took his advise.

Now, what cam (manufacturer and specs, if not asking too much) would you guys suggest? Approximate cost? Thanks again!

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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I'd suggest a Comp XE268 or maybe a XE274 if you really want to turn the wick up an extra notch... either one is about $110 IIRC. You should probably get the kit with the lifters for a couple more coins.

Did I accurately describe how it runs, or something?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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Not really, it is pretty fast but I now know after the tractor thing that it can be a lot faster.

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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since rb preachs comp stuff so much i'll say take a look at lunati, i've used a lot of their bracket master cams, all in carbed cars.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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I'll check them both out. I appreciate it.

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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another vote for the comp cam.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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And another post, huh.

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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Choosing a mild cam has a few redeeming qualities.

1. gas mileage
2. works with a stock low stall converter and low ratio gearing.
3. smooth idle
4. high idle vaccuum ( power brakes air etc.)
5. low emmisions
6. drivability smooth easy cruising
8. gives good torque in a low compression motor.
9. Less of a difference between flywheel hp and net rwhp
large cams produce power at higher rpms
all the accessories and the exhaust system on stock
street vehicles get real restrictive at high rpm (+5000)
in other words they tend to eat up that higher rpm power.
Having high induction/ exhaust flow is better for performance
than just having a big cam. A big cam will not make big power ina motor with low air flow. It also needs high gearing and a high stall converter to get the power out of it.
Whereas a motor with high airflow but a mild cam will still make
a lot more "Usable" power than stock.
And usually out accelerate a big cammed (stock) low airflow motor. Especially in the street environment.

A big cam needs to be in a high airflow, high rpm tuned motor
to work.

That being said; the cam in your motor is mild relative to the other parts.
You could gain some performance by selecting a larger grind.
But mileage will most likely be lower and you should
match your gearing and torque converter to match
the new cam choice. Your fuel system and exhaust system needs to be up to the task too. (airflow)

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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Re: mild cam

Originally posted by rocky383
What is the purpose of having a mild cam? Pros and cons?
Thanks.

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Depends on what you use the car for. If it's just a street car the 274 may be ok. If you're doing some track time, and hot street, go BIGGER. I was satisfied with my combo till I took it to the track, and found out how slow it was. My STOCK 396 69 Camaro, would have put this thing to shame.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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Its funny how some stock cams are soooo mild that they hurt drivability. I had an LG4, and my brother had a L69 ho. his car always worked better than mine, everywhere. now i have what i thought would be too radical 224/230 roller and my car make wayyyy more power everywhere compared to the LG4. My driveway is inclined about 25 degrees, i can fire it up and Idle out of my driveway ( with a stick shift). I runs better at every RPM down to about 400. I know there is more to it than that and comparing a 383 to an LG4 is apples to oranges but i can't comprehend why a manufacturer would throw away soo much power and driving enjoyment.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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You guys are so much help and really appreciated. This site kicks a$$.

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