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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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upgrade vortecs or leave stock?

i am working on my 88 camaro. i was planning on using iron 1.94/1.50 heads and getting a 3 angle valve job. i already have a one without any work done to it yet, and just need to get another. i talked to this guy who sells heads and he could sell me one with all the goodies (magnafluxed, multiangle valve job, polished, and a lot more...) and do all the same to the one i have for $250. im sure its a fair price, but i was thinkin that vortecs just might be better for me. anyway, i was leaning against doing this though since the intake manifolds cost $200+ for vortec heads, but i found some PowerPlus ones for only $128. soooo, anyway i was thinking maybe i should get vortecs. ill probably end up buying them new if i go this route. i was wondering if they need any work done to them like porting or fitting to 2.02/1.60 valves? i heard they are best to leave them how they are, is this true?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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I hear there is a site that sells the Vortec intake for $150, not sure if that changes your mind, sorry I can't remember the site.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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uhhhh dude, you responded to that before i had the chance to hit refresh and check it . anyway, i guess you did it SO fast, you missed that i said the reason im considering this more now is that i found ones for $128. thanks for replying so quickly, i appreciate it.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Re: upgrade vortecs or leave stock?

Originally posted by AFatHippo
i am working on my 88 camaro. i was planning on using iron 1.94/1.50 heads and getting a 3 angle valve job. i already have a one without any work done to it yet, and just need to get another. i talked to this guy who sells heads and he could sell me one with all the goodies (magnafluxed, multiangle valve job, polished, and a lot more...) and do all the same to the one i have for $250. im sure its a fair price, but i was thinkin that vortecs just might be better for me. anyway, i was leaning against doing this though since the intake manifolds cost $200+ for vortec heads, but i found some PowerPlus ones for only $128. soooo, anyway i was thinking maybe i should get vortecs. ill probably end up buying them new if i go this route. i was wondering if they need any work done to them like porting or fitting to 2.02/1.60 valves? i heard they are best to leave them how they are, is this true?
The vortec heads are the best low-buck head you can buy. I have seen flow data on these heads that say that the addition of 2.02 Int. and 1.60 Ext. valves do not increase airflow very much at all. The only modification I have seen recommended is, if you are needing more compression to mill the head. Not angle mill, just straight mill the head. The only thing you may have done is to have them machined for higher lift springs, if you are planning on running a cam with more than .450" lift( I think that lift figure is correct for stock vortec heads). Go with the vortecs. They are awesome.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by AFatHippo
uhhhh dude, you responded to that before i had the chance to hit refresh and check it . anyway, i guess you did it SO fast, you missed that i said the reason im considering this more now is that i found ones for $128. thanks for replying so quickly, i appreciate it.
REally, they make a PowerPlus intake for $128 that work with vortec heads, hmm, know the powerband on that intake? I'm lookin for new heads and Vortecs are in my range, just the intake is hurting me, I just bought a Stealth one.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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on the site, it says rpm range is idle to 1500. well, thats obviously wrong. it said its similar or something like that to this other one thats range was idle to 5500, so thats probably what it is. http://www.professional-products.com/sbchevyv8.htm . thats the site
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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I wouldnt recommend buying brand new vortecs. With the money you end up spending on them you're better off saving a few more hundred and getting a decent set of aftermarket ones.

I got my Vortecs for pretty cheap and then had screw-in studs and bigger springs installed on them ...giving me a grand total of $480 into the heads (including price of the heads themselves).

From what I've read the heads are almost as good as they can get "out of the box." Porting them and adding larger valves probably isn't worth the effort because the gain will be small (compared to other heads).
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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Car: Camaro Z281991 Engine: 5.7L/350 TPI Transmission: TH700R4 ··································· Car: Acura CL 1998
Engine: 3.0L/183
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These power plus manifold look like exact copies of
the edelbrock vortec manifolds.. though less popular,
makes them cheaper...
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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Car: Camaro Z281991 Engine: 5.7L/350 TPI Transmission: TH700R4 ··································· Car: Acura CL 1998
Engine: 3.0L/183
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ehh question.

why 'Fits all '55 through '95 engines' ?
why is a 96 - up block not compatible ?

thx
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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vortec heads started in 96 in conjunction with vortec blocks. thats why it stops at 95, but it does say "or vortec blocks"
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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Car: Camaro Z281991 Engine: 5.7L/350 TPI Transmission: TH700R4 ··································· Car: Acura CL 1998
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ahh ! great
thx
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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oh, by the way...i got the price wrong on that intake manifold. its actually only $119.99
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
REally, they make a PowerPlus intake for $128 that work with vortec heads, hmm, know the powerband on that intake? I'm lookin for new heads and Vortecs are in my range, just the intake is hurting me, I just bought a Stealth one.
maybe you can sell the stealth intake? my bud had that same cam you have and vortecs in his car and it definately was power on a budget kid moved though and i never got to talk to him about nething else he did to his car.
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