Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

the JB weld is NOT HOLDING!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 04:43 PM
  #1  
breathment's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: Bedford, Tx
the JB weld is NOT HOLDING!!!!

I am trying to make my current fuel pressure regulator into and adjustable one. and im using Vader's guide. and im trying to get the nut glued on the cap with JB weld cause thats all i have. i don't have the equipment to braze the nut on with brass or whatever it is u are supposed to use. (well i wont have the equipment for about another week until i go back to school). should i just say screw it and cover the hole with something temporary for now and fix it in a week? or is there a stronger glue i can use or another method? i have tried to use the jb weld twice. and the nut just comes straight out when i try to put the screw in.. any clues? or should i wait and braze the nut on?
Attached Thumbnails the JB weld is NOT HOLDING!!!!-afpr.jpg  
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 04:59 PM
  #2  
Cruzin Kaz's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,331
Likes: 0
From: Welland, Ontario, Canada
Car: 85 Monte Carlo SS...
Engine: T.P.I L98.
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi
Wait and braze a nut on. JB weld is more for sealling metal, not really good for pressure and or strength. I only use it for temporary fixes like a hole in a oil pan or trans pan. Quote the word..."temporary"
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 05:35 PM
  #3  
breathment's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: Bedford, Tx
ya, i think im just going to use the JB weld to cover my current hole and wait a week.. thanks!
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 06:04 PM
  #4  
rx7speed's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,388
Likes: 2
From: Caldwell,ID
Car: 2005 BMW 545i
Engine: 4.4L N62B44
Transmission: 6spd auto
Axle/Gears: Rotating
Jb weld is g0ds gift to automobiles

you must have pissed him off if the stuff doesn't hold
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 09:11 PM
  #5  
8Mike9's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 5,183
Likes: 42
From: Oakdale, Ca
Car: 89 IrocZ
Engine: L98-ish
Transmission: 700R4
I've not read the mentioned article, I certainly hope it didn't mention using JB Weld.

I also wouldn't use it to "seal" my fuel regulator, you could become a topic in the Local Section of your newspaper.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 11:11 PM
  #6  
kevinc's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 2,963
Likes: 3
Car: 1982 Z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
This is like watching the old Coyote/Roadrunner cartoons. Instead of the coyote with a stick of dynamite glued to his hand, it's breathmint with a JBWeld kit and his FPR cap. You know what's going to happen, but it's still fun to watch.

Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 12:28 AM
  #7  
Ions91Z28's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,780
Likes: 0
From: Warner Robins, Ga
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
What about using an epoxy directly made for sealing gas?


I don't see how he would have the problem if he used something like that.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 01:09 AM
  #8  
breathment's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: Bedford, Tx
its not gonna come into contact with any gas. even if the JB weld does come off its not gonna matter. im just gonna have a vaccum leak..
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 02:21 AM
  #9  
Vader's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 19,651
Likes: 309
Breathe,

You sound surprised that JB Weld didn't hold. You shouldn't be surprised. You can braze,weld,or silver solder the nut in place, but not epoxy it. I don't think my instructions listed that as an option.

For now, you can insert a plain old US or Canada quarter (either heads or tails up) and a rubber washer or 'O' ring above it to seal the spring can against vacuum leaks. If you epoxy it closed, you'll only have to dig out the epoxy again.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 04:08 AM
  #10  
breathment's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: Bedford, Tx
Originally posted by Vader
Breathe,

You sound surprised that JB Weld didn't hold. You shouldn't be surprised. You can braze,weld,or silver solder the nut in place, but not epoxy it. I don't think my instructions listed that as an option.

For now, you can insert a plain old US or Canada quarter (either heads or tails up) and a rubber washer or 'O' ring above it to seal the spring can against vacuum leaks. If you epoxy it closed, you'll only have to dig out the epoxy again.
well i guess i wasn't so surpised as i was pissed off. having to wait like 10 hours for that stuff to dry. and i know i shouldn't of taken a short cut. i jsut knew that i didn't want to wait until i got back to school to get it done, cause i forgot to do it before the christmas break.. the only thing i am worried about brazing the nut on there, is the amount of heat ill be getting using an O\A setup. and im not too good anyways with welding with that stuff. got any tips?

also i am already sealed up the hole with the JB weld. im not worried so much about rasing the pressure yet. and with the Flapper wheel on the dremel, it makes quick work at getting the JB weld off. i know cause i'v done it twice, takes just a few minutes.. thank you though for ur suggestions. and especialy for writting that tech article and suggesting it to me a whle back to go that route rather then spending the $80..:hail:
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 08:45 AM
  #11  
Ions91Z28's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,780
Likes: 0
From: Warner Robins, Ga
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Just curious on why epoxy doesn't work?

it seems as though it should hold it fine.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 09:41 AM
  #12  
88 350 tpi formula's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 3,544
Likes: 19
From: WI,USA
Car: 89 FORMULA 350, 91 Z28 Convertible
Engine: ls1, LB9
Transmission: t56, Auto
Axle/Gears: S60/ 3.73
I maybe wrong but, If I were to weld it on there I would first clean it as you already plan too. real well though because the thing will pop like fireworks at you with the jb on it at all. then the part I would do but, may not be recomended is put a some what long bolt through the nut you want welded on there. then start by heating up the nut then when it just starts getting fully red lower it down to the reg. because the reg. should get red hot almost instantly. then the rest should be easy. other wise I think the reg. will burn through right away.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 09:54 AM
  #13  
Vader's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 19,651
Likes: 309
Breathe,

I've done mine with an oxy/acetylene torch and a small tip. Concentrate the heat on the nut, not the spring can, then apply the bronze filler. The same could be done very cleanly with a TIG, but I would still clean off the factory powder coat before welding. IIRC, the article mentions using a spare bolt to hold the nut in place while brazing or welding, then chasing the thread with a tap if necessary.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 10:18 AM
  #14  
89RsPower!'s Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,552
Likes: 5
From: New Jersey
Car: 86 Corvette, 89 IROC, 1999 TA
Engine: 350, 350, LS1
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.07, 373, 4.10
ghetto braze it... 2 car batteries and a coat hanger and your good to go.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 12:42 PM
  #15  
Z_Ghost's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: Arlington Texas
If you bring that over to my house today I can tig weld it at work Thursday night and get it back to you Friday.

I'll PM you my phone #.
Just say something when the answering machine picks up and I will be in and out all day.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 08:47 PM
  #16  
Vader's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 19,651
Likes: 309
Now THERE is a pal...
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 10:18 PM
  #17  
dans82bird's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
From: South NJ
Car: 1988 Mustang GT
Engine: 302
Transmission: T5
goto a welding shop and have them weld it on for a few bucks
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 11:59 PM
  #18  
Z_Ghost's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: Arlington Texas
Originally posted by dans82bird
goto a welding shop and have them weld it on for a few bucks
Why I can tig weld as good as most tig welders and I can do it for free...
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2003 | 12:35 AM
  #19  
dans82bird's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
From: South NJ
Car: 1988 Mustang GT
Engine: 302
Transmission: T5
oh i didn't see your post from above
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2003 | 01:16 AM
  #20  
Z_Ghost's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: Arlington Texas
Originally posted by dans82bird
oh i didn't see your post from above
That's Ok and it was a good suggestion as most weld shops would do it for a few dollars.
I know breathment as we are in the NTTGA car club.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
no green
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
11
Jan 9, 2016 09:22 PM
Bubbajones_ya
Auto Detailing and Appearance
24
Oct 25, 2015 08:01 PM
mattcanty
Firebirds for Sale
4
Oct 12, 2015 11:08 AM
racereese
Tech / General Engine
14
Oct 3, 2015 03:46 PM
meeklay812
Camaros for Sale
1
Oct 1, 2015 03:46 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:10 AM.