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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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From: Severn, MD.
Car: '88 T/A and '90 T/A
Engine: LB9/383
Transmission: T5/700R4
very odd no start problem.

I went out to start the car the other day and it started fine. So i shut it off and burned another PROM (chip ) for it. Put it in and it wouldn't start. So I put the firts chip in it and it still won't start. I tried my ECM in my buddy's car and it works fine. I also tried his ECM in my car and it still won't start. I have spark, and I'm getting fuel pressure at the schrader valve. The fuel injectors also have 12v. with the key in the on position. I pulled a spark plug and it looks fouled. Is it possible that it's so fouled that the car won't start at all?
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Yes, it's possible to have plugs so fouled or wet with fuel that all spark is shunted to ground instead of jumping the gap.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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From: Severn, MD.
Car: '88 T/A and '90 T/A
Engine: LB9/383
Transmission: T5/700R4
Ok, thanks. I checked for spark (but it was with a spare plug I had laying around, not one of the fouled ones) and I have spark. I have fuel pressure at the schraeder valve. How do I tell if the ECM is firing the injectors? I have 12v. to them with the ignition on, but I want to know if they're being told to fire. I thought of using a voltmeter across the terminals of the injector plugs, but I seem to remember seeing somewhere that if you cross those terminals that the ECM could be damaged.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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Nasty,

You could try to measure voltage at the injector terminal, but don't short the two leads together.

A problem with that is that the sampling rate of most meters (except a Fluke Scopemeter) is far too slow to detect the 4-6mS injector firing pulses. You can use a Scopemeter, a regular oscilloscope, or an injector test light (commonly called a 'Noid light) to check injector firing signals. The test lights are about $6-10.
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