Well, my car was recovered by the police. It was used in a felony (robbing and stabbing two girls at an ATM) so they held onto it for a few days. The gentlemen who were driving it also stabbed a few holes in the leather seats, pulled part of the headliner down, and generally made a mess of the interior, but they didn't crash it. When they realized the cops were getting close, they just abandoned it and stole someone else's car.

It's been in the shop for almost two weeks now waiting for a new steering column, but I'm supposed to be able to pick it up tomorrow morning. I'm looking forward to having it back, but I'm hoping it didn't sustain any hidden damage from the abuse it took from those clowns. Now I have to look into an alternative to the Club, which obviously didn't slow them down at all.

anyway, thanks for all the good wishes! I guess they worked, cause I really didn't expect to ever see it again-

jb

 

It will take a kid 10 seconds to cut through your steering wheel and remove the Club. Get the version of the club that locks the brake pedal. It is extremely difficult to remove when installed properly and impossible to drive with it on.

 

Ever thought about grants quick release steering wheel kit? Just take the wheel off and unless they have a pair of plyers it isn't goin nowhere..................as grant says "NO WHEEL NO STEEL"

 

gt no steal wheel and you can drive on it i would get the autolock brake pedal lock and a alarm if they get it with that stuff on it they were getting it anyway

 

Take the 10 amp fuse out of the fuse box to disable the computer. Very easy to get to and very easy to pop back in. That way if someone breaks in the car they cannot get it started.

 

Battery disconnect if your really serious.

Ignition/starter disconnect on a toggle switch if you dont want to have to open your hood.

 

Better yet, invent yourself a shrinking machine. This way you can shrink your car down and carry it in your pocket everywhere you go. This is what I do!!!

Seriously, I am glad to hear that your car was recovered and repairable. I once had a motorcycle stolen and never heard from it again...I would cry if my Z was stolen...

 

A hidden toggle switch to the power wire for the fuel pump will do the trick!

Motor cant run without gas!

 

Ditto on this one. It's the best idea IMO.

You can drive a car all day with no brake pedal.
All you have to do is use the emergency brake handle to slow down and stop.

 

88 iroc? didn't it have the vats? with the chip on the key? i heard cracking the column would do you no good if the car had vats.

how did they take it?

 

I thought they started the VATS thing in 89, but I'm not positive.

 

someone asked "how did they take it?":

as someone else suggested, they sawed through the wheel to get the club off, then broke into the column to hot wire it. The car didn't have a chip on the key, nor is there any wiring in the car related to such a chip, according to the mechanic who put a new column in yesterday.

only problem he missed: car is now pissing coolant into the passenger footwell due to a blown heater core. I'm gonna try to get insurance to cover this, cause it was fine before it was stolen. Maybe it overheated while the thieves were driving around-could this blow a weak core?

jb

 

so r they gunna replace the seats?

 

oh. lol

 

Don't fool yourself. And don't let the advertising fool you either. "The Club" that locks to the brake pedal arm only takes an additional 8-10 seconds to get off if the thief is well prepared. I've said that for a few years, but I'm not letting out any secrets (search for previous posts about "The Club" ). And if you don't have the finesse to get it off the easy way, the "brute force" method can usually be done in 30-45 seconds with a Stanley folding hacksaw and diamond impregnated blade made for cutting floor tile. It's a favorite of thieves and only costs about ten bucks for the whole setup from your favorite hardware store. "The Club" is way softer than a ceramic tile, so don't be fooled. To me, they might be O.K. as a personal defense weapon, if you can swing one hard enough. Other than that, they are only made to separate unsuspecting fools from their money - not to keep vehicle secure.

A working VATS system is way more effective. As a secondary measure, a starter interruptor or fuel pump kill switch is also an excellent idea.

Forget about alarms. No one pays attention to them any more, and they are more of a public nuisance than a security measure. People get citations and fines for having their alarms turn on indiscriminately.

 

Im happy you got your car back, but you gotta hand it to the thieve's... if your gonna steal a car steal the best car! I didnt wanna go to jail and all that other good stuff so I just bought one!

 

......

 

When I was driving my 86 GT,I used to take the ignition rotor
out when I had to park it someplace I wasn`t sure about.

 

I take my steering wheel with me...

 

That would be great for me...once I get rid of the stupid airbag...

 

I pull my fuel pump fuse...

 

I'd put a switch on one of two things (or both if you really wanna **** with em):

- Fuel pump (no gas, no boogie)
- Ignition Coil (no "bang", no boogie)

 

have someone stand outside your car with an M16, no one will mess with him or your car

 

AK47, when you absolutely have to kill every mf**** in the room...

 

there was some guy on the prom board that said he always took the prom out of the ecm unless they plan on that I doubt it would start then

 

Brake line lock. Simple to install, simple to arm and disarm and the car absolutly will not move with it engaged, well not without picking it up anyway.

 

Have a hot chick hang around your car.. no one ever messes with their stuff

(If you are a hot chick, you know what I mean, lol)

 

i usually just take my memcal with me whenever i have to leave the car unattended somewhere that makes me nervous. my ecm's laying on the pass floor anyways b/c of the SD adaptor i made.....

 

When it comes down to my 91, I never take it to places where I feel its unsafe, my 86, I lock the doors, and keep it in view. If I'm in a restraun or somewhere and I have the 91 out, I keep site of it, if im in the store or something, I dont leave it alone long. I keep a large folding knife on me, blood cleans easy off of leather. Approach me while im near the car, and unless you have a gun, you will have a tire iron buried in your head. Kill switches are a good idea too.

 

Well, first of all, it's a P.O.S. Kalashnikov, so you know that by the time you're halfway through your 30 or 39 round clip, it's going to jam or hangfire - worse it it's raining. Two seconds later, when you're out of ammo, you're screwed.

Second, it's a weenie litle 762 (.30 cal) round. In combat, they're only proven to annoy the opposition unless you get a really clean hit (which is probably why officers get larger sidearms). The problem is that the opposition will live long enough to return fire. They're only a little better than the .223/5.56 NATO round, and are great for raccoons and tin cans, though.

Third, by comparison, a BMG .50 with a 200 round tombstone drum is a real joy to operate. While not as fast at emptying the magazine as the "high tech" Russian POS, everything you get near, whether a clean hit or not, is going to sustain serious damage. Fairly often, a round will continue flight and damage more targets behind the initial target.

Finally, don't try to get around the board filters by altering spellings. We still have members of all ages and persuasions, and need to try to keep it clean.

CLICK!

 

If the 762 mm was good enough to kill Gunnery Seargent Hartman, it'll be good enough for a tennie bopper punk trying to take mycar.

 

Reach out..Reach out and touch someone......
To keep in line with the actual topic...you could always use a "boot" like cops do on a vehicle.

 

You could have the tires deflate automatically when you park the car and reinflate each time to restart. Make the rims strong enough to support the weight of the car or ad in braces like NASCAR (I think it is NASCAR) uses to automatically jack up the car to prevent rim damage.

 

You could get a Grant steering wheel, they have one that you can remove with a button everytime you park.

 

you know what the easiest way to get in one of our cars is to get a clothes hanger and put it through the top of the window and hit the trunk button. I've lokced my keys in the car twice and it worked both times. Any prepared theif could get in easily.

 

excellent point, Vader. car alarms are simply glorified noise makers and everyone just ignores them. when i hear them go off i just assume that someone set it off by accident or doesnt know how to use them.

as you pointed out, the Grant removable sterring wheel kit is an excellent product.

i am looking into buying one of these kits, and along with my very basic form of a ignition disabler switch, i hope to prevent scum from trying to remove my car from its designated area.

 

true, but any alarm i would buy has a starter kill on it too. it serves it's purpose.

when they broke into my car, i had a huge speaker box that they took out the drivers door (i have no idea how). The hatch could even be opened with a screwdriver if they would have been smart enough to pull the license plate down. someone already ripped the lock outta there.

 

If this is true then why don't I see others jumping on this idea? Wouldn't it be easier than taking a whole steering wheel!?! I mean what thief would carry around a 10-amp fuse? Let alone know that it's missing and where it goes?

 

Do what I do... right behind the back seat, in open view, leave a flat-black painted Hockey stick with about 3/4 of the blade chopped off and the handle cut to about 3ft long.

Its actually my hood prop, but I've been told it looks REALLY intimidating

 

taking out the ECM fuse is a really, really good idea..

but instead of taking out a fuse (I'm sure if the thieves knew it MIGHT be a fuse, or they run into the missing fuse when looking for a kill switch or something.. that they could take a fuse out of another part of the fuse box (IE: another 10amp, or a 20/30 whatever amp that runs something that isn't required to drive)

So.. combine the two ideas... I'd say wire the ECM wire to a kill switch... BOOM. it'll act like it'll start.. but it won't. no fuses to carry. plus you would be tapping into a lower current (10 amps instead of 20 amps for the fuel pump, i believe) so there's less danger in there for people who were worried about finding a switch that wouldn't melt when connected to 20 amps..

 

I know our cars are easy to break into and are fairly easy to steal. When it comes down to it, a good car thief is going to get any car they want. Taking the ECM is fuse a simple deterent and I do it myself when I go away for a while or have to park somewhere undesirable. I don't honestly think a car thief that would steal a 3rd Gen is going to try to hot wire it or something and then diagnose a not start condition. Rather they would snake something like the stereo or your wallet if you leave it in there. The way I look at is that it would be a dangerous waste of time for a car thief to look at the fuses and relays to make sure they are all there.

Also if it does make you nervous to remove the fuse for fear a thief may notice it, take a blown fuse, amperage doesn't matter, and replace the ECM fuse with the blown one. Now there is no noticeable missing fuse...

 

In my line of work as a P.O. a thief is not going to waste his time if the car dosen't start. He is not going to try to figure out why it doesn't start. They want a car that starts up within x amount of sec after they break into it.

 

Or you could get a big black guy named Ben.

http://cultofthewolf.org/blackguy.html