Mods that i can convince my parents to help pay for :)
Mods that i can convince my parents to help pay for :)
So they are interested in things like, saftey (ahah) and fuel economy. Im currently trying to convince them that they need to help me buy exhaust and headers because it increases fuel economy... Anything else that will increase HP aswell as fuel economy? Wires, ignition... I heard you can plate the combustion chambers with platinum ?!?!? is this true? I heard only 75% of fuel combusts in the engine
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Car: 89 IrocZ
Engine: L98-ish
Transmission: 700R4
Well, if your folks are that gullible to thnk you're modding your car for economy and safety...get about 10g's out of them, and tell'em you're gooing to redo the suspension for "superior handling characteristics in adverse weather conditions" and install airbags all the way around.
Then take to a speedshop and have'em spend the $$...tape a few baggies to the steering wheel and doors...that'll be the 4way airbag system :>)
Then take to a speedshop and have'em spend the $$...tape a few baggies to the steering wheel and doors...that'll be the 4way airbag system :>)
GTA,
Something to remember is that economy and efficiency are the same thing. An efficient engine makes the most power on the least amount of fuel. (Sound familiar?)
If you only produce the necessary level of power to move the vehicle with an efficient engine, you'll get better economy and generally fewer emissions. I have a 4,400 pound land yacht that can get 27 MPG at 60MPH with the old 350. Conversely, it uses a lot of fuel when it cruises at 140+.
I see a lot of "efficient/economy" cars that are getting 20 MPG with a four cylinder that should be getting 35 or better - spewing black smoke and running on three cylinders with three red lights on the dash staring at the oblivious driver. These are the cars Al Gore wants us all to drive, to "protect" the environment that he invented. And they want to penalize large engines for emissions and fuel economy reasons? WTF!?
At any rate, some realistic modifications that would help both performance and efficiency are:
1. Low-restriction air filter, like a K&N or such;
2. Cleaned/flow-matched injectors (not a mod, but a maintenance item). The idea is while it's apart, you can port the plenum and match the runners and intake ports for greater efficiency/less intake restriction. The fresh injectors can really wake up the engine as well;
3. AFPR to adjust fuel pressure to optimum (not necessarily higher);
4. Low-restriction exhaust. This can include a high-flow cat converter and muffler, which will actually help with emissions, too, since old cats don't really have nine lives;
5. High-energy ignition system. More complete combustion is a win/win/win situation. Economy, power, and emissions are all improved if done correctly.
I'm sure there are a lot of other possibilities, but a Christmas gift list can only be so long.
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Later,
Vader
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Something to remember is that economy and efficiency are the same thing. An efficient engine makes the most power on the least amount of fuel. (Sound familiar?)
If you only produce the necessary level of power to move the vehicle with an efficient engine, you'll get better economy and generally fewer emissions. I have a 4,400 pound land yacht that can get 27 MPG at 60MPH with the old 350. Conversely, it uses a lot of fuel when it cruises at 140+.
I see a lot of "efficient/economy" cars that are getting 20 MPG with a four cylinder that should be getting 35 or better - spewing black smoke and running on three cylinders with three red lights on the dash staring at the oblivious driver. These are the cars Al Gore wants us all to drive, to "protect" the environment that he invented. And they want to penalize large engines for emissions and fuel economy reasons? WTF!?
At any rate, some realistic modifications that would help both performance and efficiency are:
1. Low-restriction air filter, like a K&N or such;
2. Cleaned/flow-matched injectors (not a mod, but a maintenance item). The idea is while it's apart, you can port the plenum and match the runners and intake ports for greater efficiency/less intake restriction. The fresh injectors can really wake up the engine as well;
3. AFPR to adjust fuel pressure to optimum (not necessarily higher);
4. Low-restriction exhaust. This can include a high-flow cat converter and muffler, which will actually help with emissions, too, since old cats don't really have nine lives;
5. High-energy ignition system. More complete combustion is a win/win/win situation. Economy, power, and emissions are all improved if done correctly.
I'm sure there are a lot of other possibilities, but a Christmas gift list can only be so long.
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Later,
Vader
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Thanks Vader, much appreciated...
No a tech question...
If i get the miniram or, super ram i do not keep plenum do i? (wtf is it anyways
)
And i've been reading about traxion and his T-ram.. which is besT? and is it possible to find a T-ram or must one wait forever?
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89 350 Gta T/A
K&N, Mild Shift Kit, 3.23
On The way, Mufflex 4". Slp 4 into 1 3/4" or Hooker Super Comp lt headers
No a tech question...
If i get the miniram or, super ram i do not keep plenum do i? (wtf is it anyways
)And i've been reading about traxion and his T-ram.. which is besT? and is it possible to find a T-ram or must one wait forever?
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89 350 Gta T/A
K&N, Mild Shift Kit, 3.23
On The way, Mufflex 4". Slp 4 into 1 3/4" or Hooker Super Comp lt headers
Hell ya go Bush!!!!
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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission with 2.77:1 Rear End
Current Mods: Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Performance Resource Chip with 160* Thermostat, Accel Ignition Coil, Cap, Rotor, 8.8mm Wires, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.
Best ET : 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)
Soon to come: LT4 HOT Cam, Air Flow Research 190cc Heads, 2800 RPM Stall Converter and SLP 3.70 Rear End Gears.
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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission with 2.77:1 Rear End
Current Mods: Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Performance Resource Chip with 160* Thermostat, Accel Ignition Coil, Cap, Rotor, 8.8mm Wires, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.
Best ET : 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)
Soon to come: LT4 HOT Cam, Air Flow Research 190cc Heads, 2800 RPM Stall Converter and SLP 3.70 Rear End Gears.
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From: Bend, Oregon
Car: 89 IROC
Engine: Built 383, Vortech SC
Transmission: Pro-Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44, True Trac, 3.54
Get a job and earn the money yourself. If you have a job and don't have enough money for mods, get a second job. You just have to want it bad enough.
Oooh, I hate to bring out the good old yardstick here, but I'm gonna have to slap Vaders hand for making a major booboo. Economics and efficiency are COMPLETELY diferent things. Not a car thing, just something you dont wanna say around a business/economics major!

Just so you guys know, Im only joking around.
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1991 Firebird Formula, 305, TPI, Auto...stock till I get some money!!!
Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP
[This message has been edited by dudelovett (edited December 09, 2000).]

Just so you guys know, Im only joking around.
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1991 Firebird Formula, 305, TPI, Auto...stock till I get some money!!!
Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP
[This message has been edited by dudelovett (edited December 09, 2000).]
I have a Job
But my insurance is 200 a month and my Gas is 25 a tank (3 days)
I work 50 hrs a week, AND IM PAYING OFF the car at the same time. Cut me some slack i want it bad enough im just trying to get anything where i can
I just saved enough for headers and a y pipe
but i need install and coating now
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89 350 Gta T/A
K&N, Mild Shift Kit, 3.23
On The way, Mufflex 4". Slp 4 into 1 3/4" or Hooker Super Comp lt headers
But my insurance is 200 a month and my Gas is 25 a tank (3 days)I work 50 hrs a week, AND IM PAYING OFF the car at the same time. Cut me some slack i want it bad enough im just trying to get anything where i can

I just saved enough for headers and a y pipe
but i need install and coating now

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89 350 Gta T/A
K&N, Mild Shift Kit, 3.23
On The way, Mufflex 4". Slp 4 into 1 3/4" or Hooker Super Comp lt headers
Originally posted by dudelovett:
Oooh, I hate to bring out the good old yardstick here, but I'm gonna have to slap Vaders hand for making a major booboo. Economics and efficiency are COMPLETELY diferent things...
Oooh, I hate to bring out the good old yardstick here, but I'm gonna have to slap Vaders hand for making a major booboo. Economics and efficiency are COMPLETELY diferent things...
So "Pardon me, while I burst into flames..."
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Later,
Vader
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[This message has been edited by Vader (edited December 09, 2000).]
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From: Austin, Tx
Car: 92 Formula
Engine: L98
Transmission: A4
Wouldnt a Supercharger increase fuel mileage? More air, less fuel!!!

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92 Rs 3.1/T-5
KYB Shocks and Struts, Blue Streak cap and rotor, neato new radiator!, RapidFire plugs
An overhead console!!
Clarion Head Unit,
Pioneer 6x9's,Cerwin Vega Plate 4x6's
.....
Its slowly but surely coming along....
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http://kiztope.50megs.com
92 Rs 3.1/T-5
KYB Shocks and Struts, Blue Streak cap and rotor, neato new radiator!, RapidFire plugs
An overhead console!!
Clarion Head Unit,
Pioneer 6x9's,Cerwin Vega Plate 4x6's
.....
Its slowly but surely coming along....
AIM : Theonekiztope
ICQ: 8787542
Planetarion: 3GFB kiztope of kiztopia-Camera-92RS-A (33:6:14(?))
"No one knows until they learn" Leon Calrinsky (99)
Originally posted by Bort62:
More Air, Less Fuel = Kentucky Fried Pistons
More Air, Less Fuel = Kentucky Fried Pistons
We NEVER EVER fry our pistons here - we bake them and make them into little shrapnel-throwing projectiles.
You know, lean it out with nitrous until the piston domes are white-hot, then advance the timing 10 degrees and watch the fireworks !!
I guess that would constitute an "untimely" end to the motor. Also, probable grounds for banishing the owner to KIA land forever.
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
I just rented a Kia in Florida - when I brought it back the rental car guy asked, politely, how was it ?
I replied, politely, "it was a sack of schizz". "A sluggard". "Wouldn't fall from a tree in a hurricane".
$10 off. He said everyone says that - and worse.

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