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Old Dec 22, 2000 | 03:47 PM
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No start condition - HELP

I can't figure it out.
Got the starter replaced, car turns over but just will not start. Just crank crank crank and no fire up. Plugs getting fire, can't tell if the injectors are firing but there is fuel pressure. The thing ran before all this starter trouble, so WTF? I am getting very pissed at this, especialy since its friggin freeeeeeezzing outside, and its a bitch to work on it.

I can't check the codes because there is no ALDL (Atleast I can't find the damn thing, its not in the usual place and I pulled half the dash out looking for it - it has a digital fuel system (?) piggybacking on the ECM).

Could the computer have bit the dust? I am seriously considering striping the camaro down for parts, use the motor in the 56 bel-air street rod and sell the rest. Either that, or going to carb.

Damn EFI.

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Old Dec 22, 2000 | 09:07 PM
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BBT,

Have you tried "priming" the intake with a little extra fuel or starting fluid? This would tell you right away if the spark timing was right and all you are lacking is fuel.

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Old Dec 22, 2000 | 09:40 PM
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I believe that you can check to see if the injectors are pulsing with a test light. Just unplug the harness from one injector and connect a grounded test light to the positive side of the harness. If the light flashes while you're cranking the engine, then your injectors are working.
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Old Dec 22, 2000 | 10:28 PM
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Does it seem to pop at all? I had a similar problem on an older Buick and turns out that the cam sprocket on the timing chain just wore down enough to where the chain slipped right around it. I hate to bring that up, but you can check real quick by removing the distributor cap and having someone watch the rotor while you crank to see if it turns smoothly. Just shooting in the dark here ...
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Old Dec 23, 2000 | 11:56 AM
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I can't figure this out.
She didn't try to start w/ a bit of fuel in the plenum, but I really didn't expect it to try.
Its getting healthy blue spark, but I think the computer may just be fried all up.

How do I test the injectors? which wire gets grounded?

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Old Dec 23, 2000 | 12:18 PM
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If your computer is fried, then your injectors most likely won't be pulsing. To test them, attach the alligator clip of the testlight to a metal part on the engine. Then unplug an injector harness and touch the tip of the light to one side of the harness. Then try the other side. One of the two will be the positive, duh, so one side should make the light flash. You won't hurt anything by grounding the negative side. Do this while the engine is cranking. And as previously mentioned, watch the rotor while cranking the engine to see if something went wrong with your distributor/timing. One more thing, and this is a longshot: with the engine off, grab the rotor and make sure it does not twist on the shaft.
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