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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:32 AM
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what intake? HSR, MR, or LT1

what is going to do the best for a 400+ hp street motor for the money? will be driven mainly on the street and occasional track passes. it is a sbc 408 that I'm not looking to spin past 7000 or so.

After reading NUMEROUS posts thru the search, I am considering the LT1 or the Holley Stealth Ram. The miniram justs seems like too much money for the ability.

What do you recommend?
HSR $2800
MR $3600
LT1 <$1500

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:51 AM
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And when you consider that the MiniRam is basically a clone of the GM LT1 intake, the decision should be crystal clear...
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 05:00 AM
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I got the holley stealth ram for about $500...? are you getting the manifold or the whole fuel injection setup? I had TPI to begin with, so I just needed the manifold/fuel rails...
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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well I am looking for a good tpi car that is either hardtop or convertible. currently I have a tbi and I am not wanting to mess with the tbi system. So I am basically looking at the entire system just in case I dont find a good tpi car.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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If we're talking 400rwhp then the MiniRam. It's not a clone of the LT1 intake. It sites higher, has slighly longer runners, and is an air-gap design.

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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As usual, you're right. I did say "basically a clone", intending that to mean the concept of a de-tuned intake was used, just like the LT1. An LT4 is slightly higher as well, but there aren't many surplus LT4 intake floating around.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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As usual, you're right.
I might be right but my spelling in my last post was horrible. I need to change my name to Skywalker so that you and I can have light saber wars. Errrrr ..... maybe not. That sounds kinda gay ... roflmfao.

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by TRAXION
If we're talking 400rwhp then the MiniRam. It's not a clone of the LT1 intake. It sites higher, has slighly longer runners, and is an air-gap design.

Tim
That and the runners are shaped to better smooth the transition of flow from the TB bores to the individual runners .
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Have you considered a carburetor and carb intake for $300 ?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 02:58 AM
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did I consider a carb and intake? yes, but not for long. and $300 wont cut it for 400 hp. try $400-600 for the 750 cfm carb, $150 for the intake, and more money for fuel press. regulator, jets, metering blocks, etc.

besides, this will be a show car when completed. and I think all the intakes that I listed will look much better under the hood than a carb. and there is another plus, hood clearance. I hear the LT1 and miniram clear the stock hood. I dont know about the HSR.

do you guys think that the MR is worth the extra cash over the LT1 in my application? or is the HSR the "middle ground" and worth the money over the LT1 but still cheaper than the MR?

I am looking for the best deal for my application and any help is appreciated. thanks


{edit} I was also wondering what cam would best match up with induction systems like these?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by TRAXION
If we're talking 400rwhp then the MiniRam. It's not a clone of the LT1 intake. It sites higher, has slighly longer runners, and is an air-gap design.

Tim
You can reasonably expect 400rwhp with a good HSR combo. For instance....

Mild 224 224 roller cam, AFR 195s, 355 = 381rwhp/433rwftlbs

I'm not arguing either way - I'd rather have the mini ram.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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you can get an lt1 intake for 400 complete if you already have a tpi setup at lt1.com, or you could buy a harness to convert your tbi to tpi, swap ecu's and bolt the lt1 on fairly cheap..
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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my HSR cleared the hood with no problems. if I needed a complete setup...I'd get DFI, and either the LT1 or the Holley StealthRam. Stealthram looks mean under the hood.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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click the green banner and go to flow comparison to see flow numbers for the various intakes you are asking about.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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You can find TPI setups on ebay for like 300 dollars...add the 500-600 dollars for a bare HSR setup, and you're still quite below the price of LT1 or anything else. It's all a matter of opinion, but the HSR setup can be had relatively easily and cheaply without having to search for a donor TPI car.
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