Alright guys, first I’ll give you the back ground info. About a year ago I replaced the front tires with some yokohama YK420s. The old front tires had started to get lumps on the tire so it was time for a replace. Now I’m at the point where my rear right tire is got a lump on it also and I need to replace it. The YK420 I found is not much of a sporty tire so I don’t think I want to put two of them on the back.

Does anyone have any Yokohama AVS ES100 tires on their car? I like the design of these and the ratings I’ve heard about them are good so far.

I'd like to know what tire would be best; my max money limit is around $200 - $225 for two tires. Give me what I can use guys, I only need two tires for the rear, and they should have a decent tread rating, good handling, and good wet/dry traction.

shane

 

nobody has any idea?

 

Well, I use all seasons. In that area, IMO Firestone Indy 500 (formally Firehawk SS20) are the best you can get.

 

how muhc per tire though?

 

Check out tirerack.com.

They have a well designed website with complete descriptions and buyer reviews. I used it before buying a set of BF Goodrich G-Force KDW's. I ended up buying through tirerack and have no complaints. I used one of the recommended installers as well.

 

alright, was it free installation too?

 

alright guys, i need to know good tires, online stores must include shipping in that $225 limit. i need new tires and my father isn't letting me drive the car becuase of the lump, he says it could blow.

 

No...was'nt free. But they did take extra special care when they installed the tires.

The owners wife told me that in order to be a tire racl "recommended installer" that have to meet and maintain certain criteria. I dont know what that criteria is, but I left completely satisfied in both price and workmanship.

 

alright wel i found a tire i needed and i got it yesterday. I went to a place who had some really nice tires i likes dor $100 each. By once i got there and this big ole band line down the middle with nothing in it. About an inch wide, i nor my step father liked that. So we looked behind us at some Cooper Zeon 2XS's.



These thing ride like nothing i've ever rode on before. I love them. I was doing a couple of burnouts at stoplights to break the tires in, ya know. The last time i did it, I floored it because i was first at the light, these things squeeled for a second and then sqeeled when it shifted into second gear again. It was awesome.

I raced a 1989 Formula that day too. It just seemed too easy, i wooped his but.

 

You need to treat your tyres much better if you wont them to last. Never ever do burnouts on new tyres! You have just wasted a lot of money in doing so.

You need to run a couple of hundred miles at 50mph or below and driving smoothly too, to bed the tyres in. If you don't treat them well when they are new then they will not last. By doing a burnout on new tyres you have taken a huge amount of the surface of the tyre, and damaged the whole of the rubber. Yeah they may be good today, but you'll end up having to put new ones on sooner than anyone else....

 

IMO the Yokohama Decibal is they best tire I have found. Traction and treadware is superior. It also is a good rain tire. I have 275/40/17's all the way around and I wouldnt put another tire on my car. They may be a little out of your range, I think I spend like 260 a tire, but that mounted and balanced.

 

Iroc-si, is that the way you would break a new motor in too? If so you are not doing anything to help yourself, you are just making things worse and able to break sooner.

I wouldn't personally do that many burnouts on new tires, but every now and then is not a bad idea.

 

The Yokahoma ES 100 looked good to me also. I almost got them. But I went the the Falken's. I have had them before and they worked well for me then. And they are very reasonably priced.

If I had to buy new tires today, the Falken's would be my choice.

 

Since when did tyres = motor. We were if I recal talking about tyres not engines. If you want a comparison then its worse than taking a brand new engine and running it right up to the redline, just after starting it. I'm sure that even you would agree that that would be stupid.

Burnouts on new tyres are not a good idea, and if you need confirmation just talk to any tyre manufacturer, and no I don't mean the flunky down the local tyre outlet. A burnout does clean the surface off the tyre which will then give you great traction. However it does remove more rubber from a new tyre than that of a properly run in tyre. If you treat them gently for the first hundred or so miles and then go back to whatever driving style you do then you will notice that they last much much longer, and still give you the same performance.

Back to the real subject.... :

Has anyone been using Kumho 712's? Our local circuit racing folks like the kumho racing tyres, and they are one of a couple of tyres I can get locally, so I was wondering if anyone has tried these on a Camaro?

Si.

 

i was actually gonna buy the kumho 712s, but when i got to the tire place and actully saw it iw as like hell no. There was a bead about 1-1.5in thick in the middle of the tire. That will loose traction so much its not funny. I actually asked th guy and he said that when road and track did a teast on and the new v-tread designs, the COppers that i got lasted the most long, then the Yokohama AVS ES100, and blah blah blah, then there was the kumhos 712s. The kumhos seemed to last the least long.

 

Iroc-si, now i can clearly understand what you were trying to say. The way you originally wrote it had me kind of confused.

Anyways, are you refferring to the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's? If so, we have been running them on my brother's 4th gen for almost a year now and have had no problems at all with them.

 

Tread life is measured by the trad wear rating. It is stamped on the side of the tire. Try to stay in the 300 range for good wear. The 280 range is not bad. 200 - 220 is pretty low. Tires will wear fast. But these are usually the great gripping tires. Anything below 200 and you better have some cash to replace them quick.