A general repair question
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From: LeRoy, NY
Car: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
Engine: 2.7L V6
Transmission: 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.41
A general repair question
Okay, first off, this is not being done with my 2.8. The only thing I am going to say about this engine is that it is a FWD 4 cylinder.
Back last June or July, the oil pan somehow developed a hole and spilled out all of its oil on the way home from the local native reservation when I went to get gas. Not even halfway home, and the engine starts knocking like a son of a bitch and I pull over, turn it off, and check the dipstick. No oil. We continued to travel to the nearest gas station so I could get SOME oil in it, and managed to limp it home, where it has set, running occasionally, for the last nine months. Today, I pulled the pan, to clean it up and see if it can be repaired (the hole is the size of a push pin), and check the lower end bearings since the engine is an OHC engine that doesn't have true hydraulic lifters. I start jiggling around con rod ends to see if any move, particularly the #3 since that seemed to be where most of the noise is coming from, and the #3 has almost no bearing left from what I can tell. There were shavings in the oil pump screen (yes, going to be replacing that too) and larger ones in the pan itself.
My question is whether I should just replace the single bearing, since it appears to be the only one affected by the accident (closest to the oil pump) or should I check the other journals and bearings and replace the rest of the bearings just to be on the safe side? All of the other bearings are normal from what I can tell, since I have yet to remove any bearing caps (got finished after dark). This is just about the first time I've seen the lower end of a car engine and am not positive as to what I should do about this...
BTW, on a tight budget and I need to get this car running so I can possibly find some work.
Back last June or July, the oil pan somehow developed a hole and spilled out all of its oil on the way home from the local native reservation when I went to get gas. Not even halfway home, and the engine starts knocking like a son of a bitch and I pull over, turn it off, and check the dipstick. No oil. We continued to travel to the nearest gas station so I could get SOME oil in it, and managed to limp it home, where it has set, running occasionally, for the last nine months. Today, I pulled the pan, to clean it up and see if it can be repaired (the hole is the size of a push pin), and check the lower end bearings since the engine is an OHC engine that doesn't have true hydraulic lifters. I start jiggling around con rod ends to see if any move, particularly the #3 since that seemed to be where most of the noise is coming from, and the #3 has almost no bearing left from what I can tell. There were shavings in the oil pump screen (yes, going to be replacing that too) and larger ones in the pan itself.
My question is whether I should just replace the single bearing, since it appears to be the only one affected by the accident (closest to the oil pump) or should I check the other journals and bearings and replace the rest of the bearings just to be on the safe side? All of the other bearings are normal from what I can tell, since I have yet to remove any bearing caps (got finished after dark). This is just about the first time I've seen the lower end of a car engine and am not positive as to what I should do about this...
BTW, on a tight budget and I need to get this car running so I can possibly find some work.
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Honestly it needs to be rebuilt. What you can try is to replace all the main, rod bearings, oil pump and screen. You can try it but I wouldent expect it to work like new. Make sure to drain the oil a couple minutes after it has run I would do it a few times before driving it.
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From: LeRoy, NY
Car: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
Engine: 2.7L V6
Transmission: 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.41
Okay, I think I've seen enough for one day. I think that what I'm going to do is splurge for the single rod bearing and a package of Plastigage. Then I am going to assemble the finished rod/bearing assembly and check for clearance with the Plastigage. Then I am going to go through and check each lower bearing in turn with the Plastigage and see if everything is within specs. If any one bearing is not in specs, I am going to go ahead and get a crank kit.
The engine ran fine with the bad bearing (I know, bad idea!), no loss of power that I could tell because it couldn't be driven without any registration or insurance plus the fact the car has one of those car topper carrier things on top, I have gone and looked each cylinder over with a flashlight underneath the piston skirts and each looks okay. I have not checked for scoring with my fingernail yet because it was getting to be too cold to do so.
I know that replacing the single bearing alone is probably a bad idea, but if all of the other bearings on the lower end check out after I install the new one, that's the way it is going to be because we desperately need a second car and don't have the cash for a new engine or a complete rebuild of this one.
The engine ran fine with the bad bearing (I know, bad idea!), no loss of power that I could tell because it couldn't be driven without any registration or insurance plus the fact the car has one of those car topper carrier things on top, I have gone and looked each cylinder over with a flashlight underneath the piston skirts and each looks okay. I have not checked for scoring with my fingernail yet because it was getting to be too cold to do so.
I know that replacing the single bearing alone is probably a bad idea, but if all of the other bearings on the lower end check out after I install the new one, that's the way it is going to be because we desperately need a second car and don't have the cash for a new engine or a complete rebuild of this one.
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