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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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is there an easy way to tell if i am running air/ fuel rich or lean without getting a air to fuel ratio gauge in my car? there must be a way i just don't know about. and whats the easiest way to correct either of those? i figure you can just adjust how much fuel you are using right?
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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You can tell by the smell of the exhaust usually. Is your car carbed or fuel injected?
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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You need to data log and check out your BML's. That is the only accurate way to tell.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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how do i go about doing that?
i have heard that you can tell by the smell of the exhaust, how exactly does that work. i know it is probably not that accurate but i was just wondering how that worked.thanks guys
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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how do i go about doing that?
i have heard that you can tell by the smell of the exhaust, how exactly does that work. i know it is probably not that accurate but i was just wondering how that worked.thanks guys
Well if your car has a cat than it is not very accurate. You car can still run rich even though it smells fine with a cat. That means the cat is doing its job and that you aren't so rich that it is not keeping up.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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what does it smell like if its running rich and i don't have a cat? like gas maybe?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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what does it smell like if its running rich and i don't have a cat? like gas maybe?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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If its rich w/o a cat you will know when you start clawing at your eyes b/c they burn from the raw fuel coming out!!!
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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There is another method, but it is subject to the same variability and innaccuracy as the ECM data logger method. If the O² is being "fooled" by an air leak into the exhaust, or is weak or contaminated, reading data drom the ECM is useless. The only positive method is with a separate wideband oxygen sensor, either installed in the exhaust stream or as part of an exhaust gas analyzer.

If you have confidence in the integrity of your O² sensor, you can invoke the Field Service Mode through the ALDL, and reveal whether the ECM is trying to correct for a lean or rich condition. There is no means to quantify the degree of rich or lean exhaust gas, just to tell whther it is rich or lean.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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Your engine should be changing from slightly rich to slightly lean and back again. If it's not your O2 sensor is probably bad. I have an Auto xray scanner that tells me if my car is doing this. It's kind of an expensive tool ($175.00), but it does a lot other tests as well and it works on other GM cars and trucks up to 1994. I wouldn't want to work on my car without it.
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