okay It strait Came off in My hands today, Soo I tore it all down heading the post I had made serveral weeks ( months ? ) ago.

Vader supplied to following pic, but I cant quite seem to get there.



the problem is, I cant get the last peice off to get to this point.

There are Two very strange fasteners Holding it On, Im sure anyone who has taken it apart knows what Im talking about. Its like a Stud with a thread in the middle, and I cant figure out how to get them out.

I tried Cutting a Slot In one with my dremel, and sticking a screwdriver In it, but that Dosent seem to be working.

Thanks For any suggestions, I really need to get this car Back on the Road.



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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

BTT, Sorry To Harass about this, but its really important.

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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

Okay its called a Pivot Pin, How Do I remove the Pivot pins ?


I have a PN# J-21854-01 That looks like its for a small special tool To remove them, Do i need this ?


Thanks guys.

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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

They make a tool (don't have the number in front of me) that screws into the threads in the middle and you tighten a nut to act as a puller against the housing.

These pins are pressed in and rotating them won't pull them out.

I have removed these by finding a small screw that will screw into the threads and use a pair of wire cutters as leverage against the outer housing.

They just have to be pushed back in with a hammer on re-installation.

Make sure you pull the tilt spring out before you pull the pins.

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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

 

I've heard of someone using a dent puller. I dont have any personal experience though, good luck.

 

Okay, Thanks guys.


I Got The part Number And have to Wait till Modany to call snap On and See about oRdering one.

I tried using a Stainless Machine screw and pulling it out, But it just wasnt strong enouhg.

So it looks like tuesday at least If I can get Overnight.

My Question Is, Would I be better off just getting a Junkyard Colum, providing it can get it for cheaper than the tool ?


Or is this something Im likely tto use again ? ( Im inlcined to belive I am )


Thanks again guys, I really appriciate it.



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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

Buy the tool.

You know if you don't buy it, you will for sure need it again.

Beside, it a good excuse to buy a new tool

I have a MAC kit in a nice little box that has all the tools and pullers to do anything to a column. Its so nice to just grab one box, sit in front of the column, and work away.

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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

 

I use a 8-32 machine screw and a pair of small vise grips, works great. Problem is, the tension of the spring that tilts the wheel up is against it, so you have to kind of pivot the whole works downward against the spring to take the force off the pin, Then it just sllides right out. Also if you don't do that, and just yank the pin as it sits, stuff will fly off and hit you in the face.

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ICON Motorsports

 

Is the column out of the car??

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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

 

How much did that MAC kit cost? It seems like it might be worth it considering I use the steering wheel as a handle to get in and out of the car and it's coming loose again.

Thanks

[This message has been edited by Mike89GTA (edited February 24, 2001).]

 

Mike89GTA : I don't even know, I've got this disease, I just jump on the tool trucks and buy stuff....its uncontrolable, you just grab it, yell out "put it on the tab" and jump off the truck.

I have to be quick, the longer I'm on the truck, the more I spend.

I'll get the part number for you on Monday.

I can't check the price because the MAC guy doesn't come around anymore.


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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

[This message has been edited by Engineboy (edited February 24, 2001).]

 

Thanks

 

The Colum is still In the car, but It could be out in Short order... Unless there are any more goofy fasteners ( haha )

I tried a 8/32 machine screw With vice grips, and I Broke it off, I then tried it with a Stainless screw and broke it off.

Thats interesting about The angle tho RB, Ill have to play with it Tomarrow some.

Thanks For all the Help guys, Really appriciate it


And Engineboy, hopefully we can meet Up, Would be neat to meet a fellow 3rdgenner anyhow, specially one as prestigous as you P)



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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

Did you get the broken pieces out??

I just emailed you.

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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

 

Bort,

I think I posted this before, but just in case...

RB is on the right track, but I've had a few "tight ones" that resisted that method, too. The "tight ones" always resist. But I digress...

Install a new screw in the pin - a long one with full thread. Before you do, install a nut on the machine screw first, then install the screw/nut through a flat washer and a ½" 12-point socket, with the 12-point side of the socket toward the pin. You may actually have to use a stack of washers that prevents the nut from falling through the square drive hole in the socket. Snug up the screw by hand, then use a small wrench to turn the nut and jack the pin out of the recess. As long as the screw is pulled straight outward, it shouldn't break. There are two or three stake marks holding the pin in place, so once you get it moved past that point it should come out relatively easily.

HINT: Remove the tilt mechanism balance spring first. That way there will be minimal tension on the pins when you remove them.

I've done a few of these with good success and no other special tools. Then again, I'm a cheap/lazy bastard.

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Later,
Vader
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For anyone interested, the part # for the tilt pin puller is PPR1000. (MAC Tools)

A complete kit for steering wheels and tilt/telescopic column dis-assembly is Pt# SWP700M. (MAC)

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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

[This message has been edited by Engineboy (edited February 25, 2001).]

 

Vader, LMAO ( you know what about )


Thanks alot everyone, Engineboy Helped me out and we got it all back together, Now I just need to go out and put it In the car

Ill need to replace it eventually as it is pretty ****ed up, But it will work for now :0

After seeing the tool, I know what you mean about fabbing one up Vader, thats why I wish the guys at GM would have let me look at theirs.

Oh well, Next time.


Thanks everyone, especially Engineboy!




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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

Glad to help.

edit: I would definately fix the P.S.

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ASE Mechanic/Machinist/Smog Tech

1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

R.I.P. #3
My favorite quote about D.E. "He can see air"

[This message has been edited by Engineboy (edited February 25, 2001).]

 

Yeah, I think thats prolly a good idea...

You should have seen the Rigged *** job I did soildering all that stuff back together, It was a little tight so I just crimped it all together with vice grips, When I threw it all in the car, The brakelights didnt work. Turns out however that it was a fuse I had blown taking it apart hot


Just need to Connect the Colum to the box now, Peace )

EDIT : Oh yeah, That bright switch cam was a bitch, So I just left it out ) Encouragement for Ram Air now...

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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

[This message has been edited by Bort62 (edited February 25, 2001).]