I junked the q-jet last year. Since then I have been wondering if I was getting any timing. I finally put a timing light on it and "yes" I am getting timing. Funny thing is initial is only 2 degrees and about 26 total (timing tab doesn't go very high). I bumped it up to 6 initial no pings no nothing on 87 octane, tons more throttle response and a little more power. I'm going to go up to 10 initial and see what happens.

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1986 CAMARO Z28 ->
151,000 original miles, 43,000 on 89' vette 350 block, Holley 650 DP, Weiand intake, 1.6 rockers, 1 5/8" headers, no cat, 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback, Mallory coil, March pulleys, B&M Ripper shifter, T5 with 3.35 1st gear and 0 miles, 90% Centerforce clutch, 3.73 posi, Eibach 1" drop springs, Spohn LCA's, Spohn adjustable panhard rod, Subframe connectors, all bushings are urethane, 2 12" Sound Streams, 2 Infinity 6X9's, 2 Pioneer 6X9's, 800 watt Lanzar Vibe amp. ET 13.22@ 106.4MPH 3300lbs less driver and speakers Next mods-> Extreme Energy 268 cam, Holley street dom intake.

1987 TRANS AM ->
73,000 miles, 305TPI, auto, gutted air box.

 

sure your getting timing, The car wont run without "timing"

but are you getting load dependant advance ?

I didnt think So.



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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Just another Hot Rod kid, or thats what they all tell me.
Livin' the Stereotype

 

You never did answer my question as to exactly what your distributor looks like.

Load-dependant or not, 26 degrees is about 10 short of what a typical SBC likes at about 3000 rpms and WOT. And, it is way short of what it can use at partial throttle to improve gas mileage.

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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R. 2.93 limited slip. Cat-back from '91 GTA, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LG4 w/LB9 block, ZZ3 cam and intake, TBD heads, Hooker headers & y-pipe, 3" Catco cat).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. 0.030 over 396, Weiand Action+, Edelbrock 1901 Q-Jet, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" headers, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Best 15.1 @ 5800' Bandimere. Daily driver while Camaro was being put together.

 

The reason it's only getting about 26 degrees total is because the intial is only 2. I put it at 6 so now it's about 30. I'm going to put it at 12 so then it will be 36.

I'm not sure if it's getting your "load dependant" advance but throttle response is excellent and I'm getting 17 mpg with a rich running holley DP and 3.73 gears, and when it comes down to it that's the purpose of part throttle advance.

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1986 CAMARO Z28 ->
151,000 original miles, 43,000 on 89' vette 350 block, Holley 650 DP, Weiand intake, 1.6 rockers, 1 5/8" headers, no cat, 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback, Mallory coil, March pulleys, B&M Ripper shifter, T5 with 3.35 1st gear and 0 miles, 90% Centerforce clutch, 3.73 posi, Eibach 1" drop springs, Spohn LCA's, Spohn adjustable panhard rod, Subframe connectors, all bushings are urethane, 2 12" Sound Streams, 2 Infinity 6X9's, 2 Pioneer 6X9's, 800 watt Lanzar Vibe amp. ET 13.22@ 106.4MPH 3300lbs less driver and speakers Next mods-> Extreme Energy 268 cam, Holley street dom intake.

1987 TRANS AM ->
73,000 miles, 305TPI, auto, gutted air box.

 

How are you determining that you have 26' total. The timing tab only goes to 16', and you don't sound like you're usinga dial back timing light.
The module itself will advance the timing in the absence of the EST signal but only about 10-15' (i suppose it could be a little more even, but i doubt it's a full 24' as you say) past 1500 rpms or so, which is what you are seeing. But still, running a computer controlled distributor without a computer is absolutely retarded. Whether it functions or not is a moot point, you are so far from optimal that it's not even funny.
I'm glad you're having success, but please don't advocate this as a valid solution to the masses. For how cheap a junyard HEI can be had and rebuilt, there is no reason to do it this way.
...ed

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Ed Maher - Moderator @ The Carb Board
92 Z28 Convertible - Quasar blue / Tan top
LB9 4L60 GU2 G80 - stock, soon to be sleeper
-=ICON Motorsports=-

- Definitely prototypes, high powered mutants of some kind. Too weird to live, too cool to die

 

Hail to the nobel prize winner.

The point of this post was to show that the car will run just fine without the quadracrap. There was a big discussion on this before. I mean people were saying no advance at all. The only reason I'm running it is because I don't have much money right now, and I take offense to being called a retart. That thing must be doing something right to be running a stock cam stock head car almost into the 12's.

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1986 CAMARO Z28 ->
151,000 original miles, 43,000 on 89' vette 350 block, Holley 650 DP, Weiand intake, 1.6 rockers, 1 5/8" headers, no cat, 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback, Mallory coil, March pulleys, B&M Ripper shifter, T5 with 3.35 1st gear and 0 miles, 90% Centerforce clutch, 3.73 posi, Eibach 1" drop springs, Spohn LCA's, Spohn adjustable panhard rod, Subframe connectors, all bushings are urethane, 2 12" Sound Streams, 2 Infinity 6X9's, 2 Pioneer 6X9's, 800 watt Lanzar Vibe amp. ET 13.22@ 106.4MPH 3300lbs less driver and speakers Next mods-> Extreme Energy 268 cam, Holley street dom intake.

1987 TRANS AM ->
73,000 miles, 305TPI, auto, gutted air box.