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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Car: trans-am
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305 ( strong but no power. )

I JUST BOUGHT A 1990 TRANS-AM, IT HAS A 305 TPI, NO MAF,
SPEED DENSITY. I REPLACED WIRES, PLUGS, CAP, ROTOR, IAV,
TPS, PCV. MY BRTHR IN-LAW DID TIMMING, USEING JUMPWIRE
METHOD.OH, I ALSO HAD MOTOR AND INJECTORS CLEANED ( H-VAC ). THE MOTOR IS WAY STRONG AND IT HAS FLOWMASTER
EXHAUST. AT A DEAD STOP: I FLOOR IT, AND IT BOGS AND GRADUALLY TAKES OFF. IN PARK YOU MASH THE PETAL IT SOUNDS
LIKE A BEAST. ALSO MY TRANSMISION SHIFTS FUNNY IT SNATCHES
IN 2ND OR THIRD AND WHEN I FLOOR IT TO PASS GOING ABOUT
65 IT BARELY WANTS TO PASS ANYTHING. EVEN A 4 CYL, EMBARRASSING, THIS CAR LOOKS MINT, SOUNDS GREAT, BUT
NO POWER. THE ENGINE IS VERY BUFF, BUT RUNS LIKE A PUFF.
PLEASE HELP. RON. P.S I DID ORDER
F-TECH HEADERS
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Welcome to the forum. First off, please LOSE THE CAPS LOCK. It's like you're SHOUTING at us and it's considered rude.

Is your car throwing a code? How old is the cat? Has the O2 sensor been changed?

I also have a 305 and for a little POS it runs pretty damn strong. No bogging at all, when I floor it, get out of the way!
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Except for the bogging, sounds like your car is performing adequately for what you have done to it.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Car: 1985 Iroc-Z
Engine: 1 BA 305 TPI
Transmission: Probuilt 700R4 - 2800 Stall Midwest
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Re: 305 ( strong but no power. )

Originally posted by gold0_9
WHEN I FLOOR IT TO PASS GOING ABOUT
65 IT BARELY WANTS TO PASS ANYTHING.
Welcome to the world of TPI.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Car: trans-am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
305 strong no power.

sorry didn't know about caps guys, and thanks for welcoming
me. yes, i did change o2 sensor. and the car came without
cat converter, i will check codes in sec. it does have a couple
2-3 exhaust leaks though and there is some kind of tube
running to my manifold. and i do have a little pop or backfire
after i floor it and boggggggggggg down. when you have to think
twice to pass a little electric car, dissapointment over whelms you.
thanks guys, any help is usefull and fully appreciated.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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I'm no expert, but I'd say start fixing what you know is wrong with the car (exhaust leaks, ect.) and then go from there.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Car: trans-am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
i did a scan on my car it just flashes code 12 repeatedly,
and also can anyone tell me whats the (arc) in the fuse pannel
for. thanks.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Re: Re: 305 ( strong but no power. )

Originally posted by jfreeman74
Welcome to the world of TPI.
Oh come on that's BS. My car has TPI and it's no slouch. No bogging. If I downshift and floor it to pass someone, I get instant power and revs. Hell, if I'm going like 60 or more, I don't even bother to downshift.

If he has serious bog, something's wrong with the thing. It can be fixed. I assumje from the sound of his post that he has an auto trans. Is it kicking down when he floors it? If not, that's a problem.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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Car: trans-am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
305 strong no power.

yes, it is automatic trans 700r4, when i floor it to pass, it won't
even stay in passing gear. couple secs or so then boggs bad. i
love this car, always wanted one, i just want her running tops.
no codes at all. thanks guys.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Whens the last time you changed the fuel filter?
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Sounds like a fuel delivery issue.

TPI isn't exactly known for competitive power, especially at high RPMs; but it sounds like yours is defective some way. One of these cars should pull as hard in a passing situation as it does taking off from a stop.

Thing to check: fuel filter, injectors need a real cleaning (www.cruzinperfomance.com) instead of the prophylactic, maybe fuel pump (let's hope not)

I doubt you'll be real impressed by the low-bid headers. Don't be afraid to cut your losses and move on to something decent if they aren't what you had hoped.
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Car: trans-am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
305 strong no power.

i just received a hard code (45) , in wich i did replace. it's
not even a month old, ive seen this code last time, but
it's back with a vengence. i don't have dual o2 sensors.
305 tpi vin #F i did smell fuel, strong through vents in car
this morning. funny smell though? any suggestions. help
(please.) thanks. ron
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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Car: 1987 Z28 Camaro
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
well after reading this, ( i know i havent posted in awhile, wrecked my car ) but after reading this thread, i noticed he said there is no MAF, that is why the car is bogging down, its making it either run rich, you have to have a MAF sensor or the car will run like S*it
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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In 1990, the fuel/intake system changed and got rid of the MAF in favor of the harder-to-tune speed-density setup.. I don't understand why, but GM must've realized it wasn't a good idea because then the LT1 was based on MAF translation again..
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Car: trans-am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
90 t/a

how do i add a maf, and what do i need to get . if i may ask?
and thanks guys!
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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You don't need a MAF. Your car was not designed to run with a MAF. You have the speed-density (SD) setup, which is just fine..
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