well it figures rolled the car outside get it tuned and started and it would not start just yet so while i was waiting for the battery to charge i checked oil and damn....chocolate milk...so back in the garage it went.

seem that when i put the intake on and the gasket kit i didn;t put sealer on the intake side only the engine side. this seems to be that cause of my problem so now to wait till tomorrow for parts stores to open so i can get a new kit. only took about 1 hour to pull the intake off with the tpi.

i can;t belive i would leave sealer off that side. i wonder if the fel pro instructions said to do that?

may have just been my oversight.. you do need sealer on both sides right? would it only be where the water passages are in the front two ports. of and the rear two that do nothing for the intake passage.

jeff

 

Well chocalate milk oil does indicate that you are leaking coolant into the oil. I don't know that I would automatically condem the intake gasket. I do not believe that the manufacturer says you have to put sealer around the coolant passages, I think it is just something people do as an ounce of prevention. It should seal without it. You could try to regasket it, but I would do a leakdown test on the motor first to make sure you are not dealing with a blown head gasket/ cracked heads/ cracked block. It would have to be a pretty good sized intake manifold leak to milkshake your oil that quickly, unless you did not change the oil after you did the intake. You have to change the oil because once you seperate the intake, all the coolant that was in the manifold drips into the valley and into your oil pan. I always pour some oil down the valley to wash the coolant off the cam and crank, then drain all the oil and do an oil change before ever starting the car.

 

Most people recommend to put sealant on both sides of the coolant ports on intake gaskets. That could quite possibly be your problem.

If you can tell that's where the coolant was leaking, then that's definitely it. If you aren't 100% sure that's where it came from, do a leak-down test as mentioned above.

 

i am pretty sure that is where its from. the car did run after doing the gasket work then it sat for another year or so. i had antifreeze in the car the entire time. not that it was really pumping any where. i got the intake apart and there is some clean antifreeze sitting in the vally not milk shaked yet. so i would say that is the culprit. i dumped the oil already now just to get a filiter and do another rinse down with oil and drain. after i get it running i will do another change after it runs for a while to be sure its cleaned out.

 

When I replaced the intake manifold gaskets on my mom's 87 tpi I recall the instructions telling you to put sealant around the coolant passages. They were felpro gaskets. So that could be your problem.

 

have you had problems with felpro gaskets? im just curious i havent heard much bad input about them, havent leaked on me yet

 

i've never had a problme with fel pro gaskets one of the best if not the best. this was my first tear down of a tpi intake or any for that matter. so my guess is i missed something. there was gasket sealer only on one side when i took it apart. so i sealed the gasket to the head but not the intake.

well now it is all back together and running. i washed down the engine with oil while it was open. ran it to temp 30 psi oil. dumped the oil changed the filter again, and fresh 5 qts. how long does it take to clean all he gunk out is there noramly more than one change. i am guessing i will need one more time. so far it is good. so time will tell. if it is something else maybe its time for the zz4 i had my eye on.

jeff

 

no problem with felpro gaskets for me. I also used them for my header gaskets and they are working great

 

Some Fel-Pro gaskets do not require sealant but I will tell you what I use that has never failed me is Gold Copper spray adheasive. It seals your gasket and bonds it so it doesnt move on the heads while you install the manifold. It's also not messy like RTV or Permatex.

 

RTV is very messy sometimes i agree

im gonna try Gold Copper when i assemble my motor again