Topic pretty much says it all.
Not asking if you would ever own one, just want to hear some opinions on it.

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86 Sport Coupe, 2.8 V6, dead stock, but not for long!

Daily driver:
2000 Pontiac Grand Am SE2

"Little girls play with ponies!"
www.geocities.com/camman86

 

I had one in my '82 Firebird. It got me around okay. However it was swapped in '93 for a 500 horse 327. That's more like it!!!

 

6 banger fbod's are alright. The 2.8's are kinda doggy but they were designed for fuel economy same with 3.1's. "3.4 wich I have in my blazer" are alright to not as much power as I expected but it's not to bad.
6's seem to stay togather well with few if any mechanical failures, similar to sb v8's.
They arent to bad!
SSC


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Next project, retrofit the primary propultion system from the ufo that didn't crash at Roswell into my camaro.

 

sniker sniker.

seriously tho..they're alright. my first camaro was one...served me very well.

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"American made baby. 100% American iron. The muscle among the masses. My hero. Yep, you can take your ergonomically designed, space age, computer controlled, 4 door, cup holding map lighted split double wishbone split fold down retractable cargo covered moon roof piece of transportation and keep it. For I have felt the thunder. And I know the difference!"
JSP Motorsports
ICON Motorsports

 

I'll be honest with you and tell you they're slow as hell. If you get one for performance... you're getting the wrong engine. I witnessed one get beat by a friggin stock 4 door new Neon last night.

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92 Z28 5.7
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Trick Flow 23° heads, Comp Cams XR270HR-10 cam, Accel intake base + ported TPI,
TES headers, Flowmaster catback, MSD ignition, #24 SVO injectors, 1LE aluminum driveshaft.

Click here to see pics of my car !

 

I would rather own a 6 cylinder than a V8, that's only if it's a Grand Nat'l.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
2:73 GEARS
Rebuilt 700R4, with manual valve body
B&M Megashifter
Soon to be installed
Exhaust Cut-Out
"There is nothing more addicting than speed"

 

if it was in a typhoon or a syclone... those are badass!!

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1992 Heritage Z/28
5.7 TPI
Auto Tranny
White w/red stripes
Factory Rear Window Shade
Grey Leather Interior
Alpine CD w/alpine's all around
2 12' subs in custom "camaro" box in trunk
G92 performance package w/ a/c
Flowmaster exhaust
only 14k miles on her!
1999 Ford Ranger Sport
2.5l I4
5spd
ram air w/ k&n filters
Daily driver

 

likewise, I'd own one if it was sitting btw the gorgeous fenders of a GN.. What times do they run stock, anyways? I remember the first time i saw one. I was at a gas station in bumville, when some woman drove up in one. at first i though(from sound) it was a 350 ss monte. but i noticed the sound wasnt quite the same as a V8, and looked a bit closer, and saw it was a GN. gawd are they pretty

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• 83 Z28-- not a pretty site to look at, 200k miles and im sure it was treated like a rental car every day of its sad life(before i got it).. sold, thank the lord
• 74 Z28-- 383/400, green on black. pretty clean. FOR SALE!!!

 

I don't mind v6's. My cousin owns one and it does just fine. Their not a 400 hp beast, but then again neither are either is my car.

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89 IROC-Z 350 TPI

-Flowmaster Catback
-Performance Resource Chip
-700R4 (Rebuilt) Too much done to actually list
-K&N Airfilters
-Ported Plenum
-2.77 Gears (not much to brag about but eh, its there)
-MSD 8.5 mm plug wires
-Gutted cat
-!AIR
-Gutted Air Boxes

 

I believe the GN's run high 12's stock.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
2:73 GEARS
Rebuilt 700R4, with manual valve body
B&M Megashifter
Soon to be installed
Exhaust Cut-Out
"There is nothing more addicting than speed"

 

GN's are 14 second cars stock..but there are like NO stock GN's..they are so veeeery easily made into a 12 second car. Just like Supra's, TTA's, Typhoons and Cyclones. Alot of people think all those cars are 12 second cars stock because you enver see one now a days with out a 30 dollar boost controller.

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• Red '88 IROC 305 TPI T-5 w/3.08
• Accel 300+ Ignition
• Accel 300+ Pro Sleeve Plug Wires
• AC Delco Rapid Fire Plugs
• Dual Friction Stage III Centerforce Clutch
• Energy Suspension Transmission Mount
• Flowmaster Force II 3 Chamber Cat Back Exhaust
• Gutted Airboxes
• Hypertech Stage II PROM
• Hypertech Airfoil
• Throttle Body Coolant Bypass
• Best Maryland (40 degrees) E/T 14.686, 60' 2.205, 1/8th mile 9.461, 1/4 mile MPH 93.91
• Best Florida (80 degrees) E/T 14.88, 60' 2.163, 1/8th mile 9.540, 1/4 mile MPH 92.74
• Best 60' 2.163(Florida)
• TPiS AFPR set to 42psi using Accel Fuel Pressure Gauge (Installed after Maryland run)
• Aluminum Driveshaft (Installed after Maryland run)

 

The tomato juice commercial sums it up....

"I should of had a V8"



[This message has been edited by a73camaro (edited June 05, 2001).]

 

A V6 car is fine. I just cant stand the guys rolling around with a bunch of crazy stickers on the back window, 295/55/15s on the back with white letters out, cowl hood, etc, etc, when they have a worn out 2.8l that constantly has smoke rolling out the tailpipes. Sorry if I just described someones car to a T, but thats what I dont like.

You got a V6...Keep it in nice shape, motor running good, and dont put any chrome coffee can exhaust tips on it.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

I'll second that opinion. I have no problem with v-6's as long as the owners don't play the Bull**** hype game all the time. I've just always thought that if you're building a car for performance you start at or near the top of what was available with the car. Unless of course you're doing a swap. Actually, I plan to buy a v-6 thirdgen in the fall to use as a daily driver, and for the gas mileage benefit. I would have considered a 305 TBI but their gas mileage is the same as the other v8s.
bsa

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"If they do not run, Then they will die." - Stonewall Jackson
#3
'87 IROC, 355 TPI, Converted to SD, 700R4, B&M Megashifter, 3.42, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge Heads, Edelbrock Intake, Accel Runners, Comp Cam, Crane Gold rockers, Lucas 23# injectors, Edelbrock headers, Flowmaster 3'' exhaust, Mallory Ignition, Transgo Performance Shift Kit, Corvette Servo, 2,000 Stall Torque Converter

 

My one friend had an '88 bird with the 2.8 for his first thirdgen. For having 175K miles on it, it did very well, far surpassed my expectations. My third car also had the 2.8, '89 Chevy Celebrity. They're just not an extreme performance motor though, so you shouldn't push them too hard all that much, IMHO. That's what that friend of mine did, beat the thing all around town and it was dead by the time it hit 200K miles, grenaded the engine. If I ever need a new daily driver, i'll probably look for a low to mid mileage V6 thirdgen with a 5-speed.

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DR Stevens
1984 Trans Am 305HO L69
1991 Firebird 305 L03

 

I HAVE AN 82 FIREBIRD 2.8 i live in chile ..fuel is expensive ...to ride all day its ok a 2.8 ...but if you wanna feel power then change that ****ty v6 man¡¡
i have a fbody club here and i drive 350s and 305s and they kick muy car's ***
yes ..the only v6 that worths is the 1989 TTA anyone with me ???
Long Live to Thirdgens¡¡theyre better than 4 and 2 and 1st gen(to me)they got the style¡
thanks bye guys¡¡

 

Wow. I'm a little surprised nobody down and outright bashed a V6 thirdgen. As for what I'm doing with mine, I got all these goodies waiting to be installed:

K&N filters
MSD 8.0mm wirs
MSD-6A ignition
MSD GM Blaster coil
Catco hi-flo cat
Dynomax 2.5" cat-back, super turbo muffler

From the outside, car will look totally stock except for a 91 Z28 blistered hood. (Scored that for 50 bucks!)

 

I used to own a 2.8

Fun little car, great gas mileage, easy to work on, not very fast, but fast enough to fend off alot of Hondas.

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1991 Firebird Formula
305 TPI,Auto,Custom 3" Mandrel bent I-pipe, Flowmaster 80 series muffler, 3" hi-flo cat, Accel Cap & Rotor,Taylor Spiro Wires,Bosch Platinum Plugs, K&N Filter, Grant GT Steering Wheel, 5% Rear tint, Pontiac Windshield Decal, Fresh paint

Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP

 

What are Typhoons and Cyclones, I have never heard of these.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
2:73 GEARS
Rebuilt 700R4, with manual valve body
B&M Megashifter
Soon to be installed
Exhaust Cut-Out
"There is nothing more addicting than speed"

 

Two wheel drive trucks with the 3.8 turbo motor.

 

Sammy,
Welcome aboard! How many f-bods do y'all have around those parts?
bsa

 

V6s Suck.... Oh wait a second

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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25


1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106

 

v-6 are ok. i have nothin against them but then dont make your cars look like v-8's and do even think about tryin a hotrod around b/c youll get a *** bit. ohh ya one more think GN's are the nice v-6 EVER!!!!

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91 camaro RS
- 305 TBI
Mods: Performer TBI intake, 1" TBI spacer, K+N, jet fan switch ,160 thermo,Accel control module, Jet Stage 2 chip, edelbrock TES headers, Compleate 3" Flowmaster exhaust, Edelbrock springs, KYB struts and shocks, 700R4 built by TSI, SLP tq converter, b+m trans cooler, white guage faces, megashifter..
next month: spohn LCA's and panhard rod, BMR relocation brackets, 323 gear

 

Syclones & Typhoons are all wheel drive and they have a 4.3l V6 with an intercooled turbo. The syclones look like an S10 and they Typhoons look like an S10 Blazer. Sweet little rides if you ask me.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

I though my 3.1 was pretty hard to kill. It say some harse driving and never complained. I hated changing the water pump though!

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1992 Pontiac Firebird 350/Six Speed
1987 Toyota Pickup 383/500+ HP

 

I'm one of those weirdos that still has a stock GN. Runs 14.20s @ 98mph with no mods and no real tuning (no scan tool etc.). Fully loaded with t-tops, 47k miles.

BTW... nothing wrong with V6 F-bods. If that's what you've got and you like it, go for it.

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89 G92 Formula
87 Buick Grand National
Bunch of other stuff

 

They had a 4.3L? Is that a larger Buick motor or were they chevy 4.3's?

 

good gas mileage. If you got a 6 cyl f-bod, who cares, at least it's a f-bod. I'm due a new engine and have thought of putting 6 in mine to get better mileage. the gas prices are ridiculous. Of course, that's only because I plan on getting a new Z28 soon. So I figure I can just keep the 92 for the daily driver.

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92 RS 25 ann. ed. bone stock.
5.0/TBI/T-5
T-TOPS
Many mods to come.

 

That would be Chevy. Buick did make a larger 4.1L (252/4bbl) based on the 231 (3.8L) V6 in the early 80's I believe. They put those in the station wagons .. can't remember the name. I know, I got one from an 82 Buick to put into the Grand Prix I had with a tired 3.8L. Got me from Texas to Florida, then swapped it for a 350

 

GlenL98GTA gets 10 more MPG's than my V6, and he has (as his name implies) an L98. I get 20-22MPG. Around 15 in the City.

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Smile, you're in my rearview I'm joking, I have a v6, but eventualy it'll be
JACKED UP LIKE A MOTHER
Respect My Authoritaw {Cartman Voice}
See pics @ Billy's Firebird
92 Bird 3.1L Auto--Best $750 I ever spent....DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:93 Mustang LX (Before Mods),98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40),92 Camaro RS 305 TBI-Not too fair, his fuel pump went out 2 days later. Nice car, but not running right. 97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls-94 Grand Am 3.1 V6, 92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350
Best LOUSY Run...17.263 @ 77.79MPH
In a Dog Eat Dog world, I STILL go after tha cat.

 

They made F-Bodies with Buick GN 3.8 Turbos in them. They were Turbo Trans Am Indy Pace cars. They were made in either 88 or 89 I think.. whatever year was the TA's anniversary. They are very fast cars!

 

I loved my old V6 to death. It ran like a raped ape for what it was. But it got ****ty mileage (same as what I am driving now). The car had a lot of problems, but after the crap I put that engine through (pushed it way too hard, ran it low on oil a couple of times, pushed it WAY TOO HARD - oh did I say that already?) it was a good engine. Hardly something to race a 350 with

Vman

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1994 Z-28: red, t-tops, LT1, auto, all stock

1969 Camaro Coupe: being restored

Previous owner of an 89 RS Camaro
2.8L V6, 700R4

 

At least it isn't an iron duke 4 banger!
When I think of f-body I think of small block with the ability to swap in a larger motor with minimal efforts. I always think of the "base" model as having a v8 (Lg4 or L03) but I never really think about v6s much. Not that it's a bad thing, just something I don't really ever consider and never plan on owning in my life. As for gas milage, give me a huge engine w/ EFI and 2.73 gears and I'll show you mpg!
I must say my favorite f-body is the 89 TTA, man, now that is a beast. Instead of a v8 rumble is has a turbo whoosh, I'll take either but I could never own a v6 na f-body. I'd end up swapping in a v8 in a week for $600 and live with that.

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, Jon (350 TBI!)
91 Red My website

 

I like the supercharged 3.8 V-6's in the Newer Grand Prix GTP's and Regal GS. You can get them into 13's easy. I had a 98 Regal GS that I G-teched a best of 13.6 in the 1/4 and that was before I added some more mod's. I had it at 1/8 mile track and would run 9.3's on stock tires with 60ft times of 2.4

 

Can someone answer this question for me since we are talking about V-6's? I sorta raced a '96 RS with the 3.8 in it a couple weeks ago and I didn't seem to have alot more then he did. It was a 5spd and probably had better gears than my L98/auto/2.77. He pulled hard on me in a school zone where I didn't really wanna tromp on the gas then further down the road I passed him and now he's going around saying he beat me!! So tell me, is there something wrong with my car or are these things really peppy to a point? I have changed out my 22# 350 injectors temporarily for 19# 305 injectors because they were leaking down bad, this was after our "race" and I notice that the car does have a little more spunk now. So am I basically way out of tune or does he maybe have more going on under the hood than meets the eye?

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Ed Stevens
88Roc350TPI
1988 Camaro IROC-Z
350 TPI
700R4
T-Tops
"1KILLRZ"

 

when i turned 16 my parents bought me a used 4th gen 94 v-6(FULLY loaded). it barely had any miles on it and i thought i was bad *** . two years later, after i learned a lot more about cars, i switched to our old 86 IROC 305 TPI that was collecting dust(and mold). i've been restoring it and making it look nice for a year now. we still have that v-6, but i wouldnt want to be the next owner of that car after the beating i put on it through high school! Trust me, there is a HUGE difference between a 3.4 SFI and a 5.0 TPI.

 

No, those 3.8's are zippy... when the "new" Mustang 4.6 first came out, a 95-up 3.8 V6 F-body could beat them! The 3.8's (series II) do 200 HP @ 5200 RPM, and have 225 ft/lbs torque @ 4000 RPM.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
---Think your car could be pic of the week? Visit http://www.f-body.net for details!

 

I prefer v8s, but I dont bash on v6s.
The way I see it, the second you start clowning on a v6 or whatever, you're gonna end up looking at the tail lights of a TTA or GN, etc

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90 IROC 5.7l (L98)
ram air, K&N's, air foil,Flows

LIKE A ROC

http://members.nbci.com/IrocZgarage/home.htm

 

i have a 4.3 in a 85 camaro drag car. not quite finished. i love odd ball combos, i know it won't be as fast or quick as soem cars but i can live with that. i also have a 68ss with a SBC and my son has a 355 i built in a 88 camaro.

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ICON Motorsports
1st & 3rd
MM Black Diamond 538 F&AM

 

Umm... twin turbos.

 

I think most of the major points have been made, but let me add this. My friend has a 95 Camaro with a V6 (3.4). Yeah, they're quick, even with few mods (his has a Z28 exhaust and K&N). He told me that he almost beat a worn out V8 2nd gen once.
The thing is though, he gets NO respect anywhere he goes. People laugh at his car on the road all the time. All because it's "just a six." If any other car had been given that motor, it would be worshipped as an engineering marvel, a powerhouse, a V8 killer. But because it's a Camaro, people think it SHOULD have 8.
V6's are great if you want to be an underdog, but if you actually want your ride to command respect, you need an 8. All you 305 guys, you know how people react when you tell them it's "just a 305." It's like that, 'cept worse.

 

Another message on that note, don't put a performance exhaust on a 2.8 to broadcast 'piece of v6 coming down the road'

Not that I don't like them, I actually do for a daily driver to get good gas milage on long trips, but upgrading a 6 is like throwing money out the window. The 8 is cheaper and the mods make more of a difference.

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'88 Camaro RS 2.8L
'88 Formula 350 (Too many mods to list...)

[This message has been edited by JoelOl75 (edited June 09, 2001).]