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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Bolt keeps loosenign, anything i can do?

Well my header flange (2 bolt kind) bolts on the passenger side keep coming loose, and it seems like every 2 months I am driving down the road when they completely let go.

So tomorrow I got to wake up really early and fix the darn thing before I get to work.


This time when I fix it, are there anythings I can do in particular to make these bolts stay tight? At those temperatures superglue (or even lock tight) wouldn't work. What else can I do?




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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Stage 8 locking header bolts will fix you up. The are only about 45 bucks for a set.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea to use superglue on bolts lol.
How about hi-temp threadlock?
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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get a hi heat locktite

only way to fix it
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Weld the nuts to the bolts after tightening.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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Weld the nuts to the bolts after tightening.
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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good idea
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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Get header bolts with holes drilled in the heads for safety wire. Then buy some tie wire from, well, anywhere, and thread it between two bolts to 'tie' them together. They will not ever loosen, and if you need to take the bolts out, you dont need any weird tools or special waste-your-time techniques. Just cut the wire and grab a wrench to take them out.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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well i;ve always been told that locktight is just like super glue, so i figured of its like super glue, and super glue cant take 1k* temps, then why would lock tite.... i guess i'm wrong, i'll stop by autozone tomorow and see what they got for me then....
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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keep tightening them
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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High-temp loc-tite or tack weld the nut once you tighten it.

The bolts shouldn't get to 1000* I wouldn't think.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 03:07 AM
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I'm amazed. Stunned. He's getting better. Now if we could only get him to search.

Many of these are sound advice. I'm cheap and just check 'em now and again. Lock washers seem to help, for a while, as well.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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use better gaskets and better bolts. if you don't want to go the high dollar stage 8 route safety wire is cheap and easy, at least for some of us. on the plus side not much looks any better than a good safety wire job on something.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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well i did a wuick fix today, found a bolt long enough and fit it in the nut thats already welded to the flange.

Tomorow since i goto work at 11, i'll go try and fid some of these bolts with holes at the end, thats actually a pretty swet idea....


Thanks for all the help guys....



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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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I cant wait to see the next thread asking how you get the wire thru the holes in the bolts ...do you have to spit on it or somfin d00ds?.....when will it ever end
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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I cant wait to see the next thread asking how you get the wire thru the holes in the bolts ...do you have to spit on it or somfin d00ds?.....when will it ever end
or which way to route the wire around the bolts, etc...
How many threads is he going to start about safety wire?
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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or which way to route the wire around the bolts, etc...
How many threads is he going to start about safety wire?
I say atleast 3 if not 4 by the end of the weekend....LMAO
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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safety wire

safety wire 2
Just for fun. Let's see if he'll read first!
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by bru333
safety wire

safety wire 2
Just for fun. Let's see if he'll read first!
Your kidding right...LOL...we all know better than that...
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Your kidding right...LOL...we all know better than that...
:yes:

Yeah, and he drives me crazy. I've only started 2 threads here because I can usually find what I need by

But he's not the only one that posts a lot. "V8 Slayer" has quite a few threads too.

Or is that one of the alias that Shane uses?

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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by therckid
well i did a wuick fix today, found a bolt long enough and fit it in the nut thats already welded to the flange.

Tomorow since i goto work at 11, i'll go try and fid some of these bolts with holes at the end, thats actually a pretty swet idea....


Thanks for all the help guys....



shane
It works really well. My dads '73 Z28 used them and he never had a problem. I'm not sure if he bought them (bolts) like that, or if he had to have them drilled though, but I'm sure you can buy header bolts like that. It seems like enough people have done it.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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do you folks know where I can get some of that "thread" you all keep talking about?
I can't start any of my own lines cause of having none of that thread stuff.
Is it thread or tread? Seen it both ways.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by big_fart_buster
do you folks know where I can get some of that "thread" you all keep talking about?
I can't start any of my own lines cause of having none of that thread stuff.
Is it thread or tread? Seen it both ways.
Puff, puff, pass.
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