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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 12:12 PM
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Brownfield Cyl Heads??

Has anyone ever heard of these? Are they competative with AFR? I have an opportunity to buy some, and the flow ratings look pretty damn good:

.......Int...Ex
.300 200 158
.400 234 178
.500 266 198
.600 277 209

These Flow numbers were gathered at Flow Technologies, with Manley severe duty valves. Was Brownfield bought by AFR? What do you folks think about these heads? All info is appreciated. Thank you.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 01:03 PM
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Yes, Brownfield got bought by AFR sometime in 85 or so. Most Brownfield heads are quite old. Sounds like some good flow numbers however.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 12:00 PM
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I found out more about these heads;
The combustion chamber size is 66cc. They started out at 64cc.
The intake runner size is 208cc.
The heads are angle plug style.
The intake valve size is 2.02 and .100 longer than stock, and the valves are Manley Severe Duty.
The exhaust valve size is 1.625 and .100 longer than stock, and the valves are Manley Severe Duty 30 degree tulip style.
The springs are currently set at 225 lbs seat pressure and 600+ at .600 lift.
The heads do have bronze guides with pc seals.
The heads are definitely set up for a solid roller camshaft.
The valve guides have only been cut for .600 lift, if you want to go higher, you'll need to cut them.
The valve springs will work to .700 lift if you cut the guides. I was leaving them long for the cam that I was going to use.
The heads have been pressure tested. I do that to all my new cylinder heads and they passed just fine.
The intake ports have been matched to a Felpro #1206 intake gasket.
The exhaust has both bolt patterns stock Chevrolet and spread port bolt pattern. But the heads have standard exhaust port location.

How would these perform on a SB 400 w/ 224/230 dur - .518/.536 lift roller cam? Are the ports too big? How would this head compare to the AFR 195? In other words, if I could get this head for $1000.00, would it be worth it? Or would I be better off to spend ~ $1400.00 for a set of AFR 195's?


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 12:30 PM
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lot of info there..

You have to factor in a couple of things. You will need valve springs. The existing spring is probably 1.55 inch. You will probably need something like a 1.45. You might be able to take the inner spring out and get the seat pressure right for the hyd cam.

The other thing is the chamber size. I ended up with approximately 10.8 to 1 with a 69cc chamber and flat-top with 7cc valve relief. (zero deck and 9.2cc gasket). With a 66, your probably be over 11 to 1.

With a cam that has that short of a duration, cylinder pressure will be real high at low speeds putting it on the verge of detonation (certainly with pump gas). Once you add the issue of valve spring setup, with the possibility of the compression being less than ideal, it might be more cost effective to get the AFRs.

Plus, are they going to need a valve job?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Are they to big?</font>
No, I have a set of Track1s and in a 400, low end is good. I would not use a real wide lobe separation angle if you can. 110 or less will really make sure the midrange and lowend are really snappy. Use something like a 3.73 gear.

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 06:21 PM
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Tom

The heads you are looking at are angle plug style and you will have spark plug clearance problems if you have SLP headers like me. (only reason for selling them.) If you need them set up for a hyd roller I can do that for you.

P.S. I just got a new set of aluminum 220cc Pro-action heads and the brownfields out flowed them on the same flow bench

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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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Guy's, Thanks for the GOOD posts. After reading your posts and thinking about it, I decided I'll pass on these and go ahead witht the heads I had planned on getting - the AFR 195's. Thank you very much for your input.

BTW for anyone who is interested, they are on Ebay here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...527363&r=0&t=0

Now that I don't want them, I'm not afraid of being out bid by a fellow third gen'er!!

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