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Old 07-13-2001, 11:03 PM
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What size distributor advance weights would.....

Be the best to to use in this suitation

It is a 383 10.5:1 comp, ported TFS heads, Lunati cam grind # RRA1-224-232-6 (specs are exhuast closes at 0* atdc opens at 52* bbdc, intake opens at 4* btdc and closes at 40* abdc, lobe sep is 112, center line is 108* lift is .504 intake .514 exhuast, duration at .050* 224* intake 232 exhuast, advertised duration is 280* intake 290* exhuast)

Yes he has the 1.6 RR on it stock converter, rebuilt tranny with shift kit and 4.11 gears

The weights that are in there now have a 60 stamped into them

Base timing is set to 12*

Ummm Sooo what would be a good advance weight to put in there?

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Old 07-14-2001, 01:09 AM
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Get a set of aftermarket advance wieghts. They're only like $10, and come with 3 sets of springs usually to experiment with. Don't trust whatever came in there stock..god only knows what kind of curve it's actually giving you by now.

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Old 07-14-2001, 07:32 AM
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I know Jester thats what we have now. I figure that I post up something about it see if anyone has any insight of what weight would be good to start out with.

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Old 07-14-2001, 09:17 AM
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The numbers don't mean anything.

Your base timing is 12 degrees. What's the total timing? Remove and plug the vacuum line and bring the rpms up until the spark curve stops advancing. You'll need an advance timing light or a balancer with degree marks on it. Your total timing should be all in before 3000 rpm and total timing should be 36-38 degrees. When you advance your base timing, you're also advancing the total the same amount. If the base was originally 10 and you went to 12, the total could have been 38 and is now at 40. Recurve the distributor back to 38 total (or whatever your engine likes best).

The weights will determine how much mechanical advance there is. The springs limit the rate of advance. You can mix and match the springs (one light, one heavy) to fine tune the rate at which it advances.

Those recurve kits they sell are tuning aids. You can't put in any weight or spring without knowing what it's doing. You can also go to the junkyard and pull different weights out of HEI distrubutors to try and get different total mechanical advances. The center cam lobe will also change the curve. Like the springs you can also mix and match the weights to get different mechanical advance totals.

Your best bet is to take the distributor (or another one) to someone who has a recurve machine. When they have all the specs for your engine and car, they can recurve the distributor to exactly what you need.

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Most any standard aftermarket wieght set has a 20 degree total advance. Changing the springs changes the rate at which that comes in. Most sets also come with a graph showing what curve different springs will result in.

use the middle springs to start.

IF it knocks before 3500, put in heaver ones. IF it knocks after, Retard the base timing and/or vacuum advance canister if you have an adjustable.



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Old 07-14-2001, 08:16 PM
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Thanks guys I appericate it!!

One good thing is that the ballencer does have timing marks all the way arround it!

Looks like I know what I'll be doing sometime this week

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