Hey guys I was at Kyfbodies.org and they have an online store which sells T-shirts, Sweatshirts, Longsleeve T-shirts,Mugs and Mousepads which have their logo on them. I saw at the top of the page "Powered by Cafepress click to open your own store" I clicked on the link and we could have our own stuff with our own logo! That is so cool! Could we do this? Sorry, I'm ThirdGen.org proud! Here's a pic of their MousePad
Link to Kyfbodies.org online store:
http://www.cafepress.com/kyfbodies
Link to Cafepress:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/tour/index.aspx

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

I have considered using Cafepress.com in the past, but I don't know if they are any good. Has anyone seen the quality of their products? If they just print the art out onto one of those iron on printer paper things and then iron it onto a shirt, that'll really suck

Here is their base price list for their products:
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12 ounce Mug- $10.99
15 ounce Large Mug -$11.99
100% cotton, white Hanes® Beefy-T-Shirt - $13.99
100% cotton, ash grey Hanes® Beefy-T-Shirt - $14.99
100% cotton, long sleeved Hanes® T-shirt - $18.99
100% cotton, Anvil® Women's Baby-doll T-shirt - $16.99
50/50 heavyweight, Hanes® Sweatshirt - $20.99
Mouse pad - $10.99
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Say we charge 20 per shirt. That's $14 that they get and $6 that we get. Then you tack on almost $5 for shipping and handling... now you are paying $25 for a shirt. $19 of that $25 goes to someone else. Don't know if that's reasonable or not.

And they don't offer license plate frames

 

Yea I wish I had a license plate frame or a license plate but hey I'd still buy the other stuff and I'd pay alittle extra stuff though. I mean I don't mind spending more money to get what I want. And they are adding more stuff like:
Tank Tops (Men's and Women's)
Baseball Hats
Aprons
Tote bags
and more to come
or that's what they say on their website under the Help Page. So maybe the License Plate Frames are coming. As far as the quality of the products go they say "Q: What is the printing process used on the t-shirts?
A: We use a dye sublimation printing process for mugs and mousepads and digital transfers for all apparel. These processes are similar in quality to screen printing, with no image cracking, peeling or fading.
Heres the link:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/hel...q.aspx#process

I think this would be Awesome Dirk and you could make alittle money If you need more info you can contact them at mailto:service@cafepress.com

Plus they have a 30-day Satisfaction Guarentee!

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

Oh and Dirk here's a link to Store Owners
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)if you haven't already seen it:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/hel...rfaq.aspx#open




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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

Anyone else have any thought's about this?

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

I have bought a few t-shirts from Cafepress, the quality is not bad at all. What it really depends on is the logo. It has to be easilly readable, otherwise, it sux.

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Third Gen Project
1989 305 tbi Camaro RS Red/Red
Ram Air II Hood
Centerline Champ 500 Rims
Edelbrock Open Element
MacEwen White Faced Guages

"Stock?! Theres nothing "stock" about a stock car."

 

I would be willing to spend a couple extra bucks for a t-shirt that I wanted. Thats the kind of thing that I would wear to the shop or the drags. Dirk, what kind of logo do you think you would want to use? I am sure someone here could whip something cool up on photoshop.

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Jay

black 85 Z28, t-tops, 4bbl carb, flowmaster 80 series muffler w/ custom tips (hollowed out cat), edelbrock chrome air cleaner, Infinity 4" 2 way front speakers and Infinity 3 way 6x9s, Alpine CDA-7863 head unit. many more mods planned (holley carb 4160 and edelbrock performer intake coming very soon)
Jay's webpage

 

Dirk, I have been thinking of doing the same thing from the same place for my site www.TransAmGTA.com and I figured that even though the majority of the money is going to someone else atleast we get some of it that will help support the site that much more. more important than that though, is our site is being promoted by whoever buys it!

Alex

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www.TransAmGTA.com THE 3rdgen Firebird Site!
1992 GTA (226 made), 1 of only 18 "Dk. Jade Met." 92 GTA's, My Window Sticker, LB9, 700R4 4-Speed, T-Tops, Grey Leather, every available option except G92, J65 and U1A.
Current Mods/Upgrades: 80 Series Dual Outlet Flowmaster, TPIS Air Foil, K&N Air Filter, and Mobil 1.
Future Mods/Upgrades: None but a complete restoration.
Best Track Time: 14.6sec@96.6mph

"If it ain't broke, fix it til it is!"
Webmaster www.TransAmGTA.com
My 3rdGen Firebird Message Board!

[This message has been edited by 92GTA (edited April 25, 2001).]

 

Hey Dirk, I just signed up to go ahead and do it for www.TransAmGTA.com

Now it's your turn

Dirk, if you need a logo, email me. My mother-in-law has been a professional graphic designer for years, she might even do it for free because she see's it as fun....

[This message has been edited by 92GTA (edited April 25, 2001).]

 

chanting "do it, do it, do it" isn't peer pressure a bitch?

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Jay

black 85 Z28, t-tops, 4bbl carb, flowmaster 80 series muffler w/ custom tips (hollowed out cat), edelbrock chrome air cleaner, Infinity 4" 2 way front speakers and Infinity 3 way 6x9s, Alpine CDA-7863 head unit. many more mods planned (holley carb 4160 and edelbrock performer intake coming very soon)
Jay's webpage

 

DO IT,
Please,
for the love of god, Do it.

John

 

i would be all up for a nice graphic and stuff for this site. i love this site . it has helped me a ton. i would buy stuff

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91 camaro RS
- 305 TBI
Mods: Performer TBI intake, 1" TBI spacer, K+N, jet fan switch ,160 thermo,Accel control module, Jet Stage 2 chip, edelbrock TES headers, Compleate 3" Flowmaster exhaust, Edelbrock springs, KYB struts and shocks, 700R4 built by TSI, SLP tq converter, b+m trans cooler
Soon to come .SLP Posi 323,Spohn LCA's and panhard bar,Ascd ram air hood, Z28 spoiler and grille,white guage faces.

 

What you really need to do is find a place that will print the logo on shirts that YOU provide! Then buy up a large quantity of shirts at a discounted price, have the logos printed, bump the price up when you sell them and sit back and collect some serious money!

But think about the cafepress thing! If they're printing the logos on the shirts then they are doing all the work and you're just sitting back and collecting $6 PROFIT PER SHIRT! Say you sell 50 shirts! You just made $300 w/out sinking in a penny of your money! Personally, if I had the choice to make, I'd do it!

Oh yeah, I'd like to get a racing paint job done on my car with Thirdgen.org logos all over it! That would be f*cking awesome! I might look into doing something like that when I get some cash!!



[This message has been edited by 86TpiTransAm (edited April 25, 2001).]

 

I agree- we should do this. Even if the profit is only a few hundred bucks, at least there would be a bunch of people wearing Thirdgen.org shirts out at car shows and drag strips. That would promote more interest in the site. Hey- maybe the front side says Thirdgen.org and the backside says Thirdgenparts.com/Spohn Performance/GT Auto Accessories. Having sponsors would be win-win. They get advertisement, we get cheaper shirts.

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1983 Firebird T-top- 383/TH350, South Side Machine SFC's & lift bars, 91 Formula bumpers, Harwood cowl hood, 89 T/A rear wing, 17" Centerlines, 89 Formula interior... Estimated completion date: never

 

Just think Dirk
Registered Members: 7402 Profit from Shirt: $6.00 =
$44,412.00


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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

[This message has been edited by jobryan26 (edited April 25, 2001).]

 

There is another post over in Appearance just like this going. https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/001854.html
Let's keep this going so maybe it might happen if we show Dirk we are interested. Com'on Moderators!

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

[This message has been edited by jobryan26 (edited April 26, 2001).]

 

I like Firebird383's idea, have the sponsers on the shirt too and that could reduce the cost of the shirt.

 

I'd pay a little more for a shirt with a Thirdgen.org logo on it.

 

I wouldnt mind spending $20 or a little more for a decent T-shirt

 

I also agree with Firebird 383 and nestz28
that it would be a cool idea to have the sponsers on the shirts. Let's keep the posts coming. Thanks guys for helping. Maybe together can make this happen.

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

Large crowd chanting "SHIRT, SHIRT, SHIRT". I'd buy two or three just so I could wear them all week long. Hell ya! Thirdgen shirt, Thirdgen shirt. Get a picture of both the cars on there too, kinda like the logo for the message boards. Money is no object(who am I kidding). I'll pay 30-35 for one, or two, or more.

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14X3 o.e., functional formula hood(for sale in future), uhhh..., umm...

Am I the only person who believes a car has feelings, emotions, and a soul??

 

I agree do it! I would definitely buy one or two maybe more. Neway-- just showing my support!

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89 RS (supposed 350) TBI auto

 

I think it would kick a*s, and I have talked with Dirk about it.

 

Bump

 

Just wanna add to the peer pressure!

 

do it dirk!,you could make some cash and promote this site big time.i think the logo would be nice on the front with a t/a and a camaro on the back,that would be sweet.you could take your logo and whatnot to a t-shirt place and make a deal to buy a bundle, if your strapped for cash then have people send you money in advance and then go to them with your pockets bulging and buy a bunch and then your cost might be $10 a shirt.

 

You know what guys? I've got about three dresser drawers of T-shirts and I only wear a handful of 'em. A third-gen shirt would be COOL! In the words of Roscoe P. Coltraine "I love it! I love it!"

I agree that the picture or graphic should be of a camaro and firebird. Getting the sponsors on the back would also be a good thing, if they're willing. Would there be any kind of trademark infringement trouble or anything like that?

Maybe members of this site can submit renderings of the shirts. And we can all vote on the one that we like the most. Democracy in action.

Getting the printing done by a local print shop would most likely save on production costs. You wouldn't have to pay the shipping of that bulk package(if shirts were ordered from a place far-far away).

This whole thing takes me back to my high school economics course, where we did the same thing: designing, production, marketing, etc. of T-shirts.

 

any word on whether this is gonna happen? I want a t-shirt

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Jay

black 85 Z28, t-tops, 4bbl carb, flowmaster 80 series muffler w/ custom tips (hollowed out cat), edelbrock chrome air cleaner, Infinity 4" 2 way front speakers and Infinity 3 way 6x9s, Alpine CDA-7863 head unit. many more mods planned (holley carb 4160 and edelbrock performer RPM intake coming very soon)
Jay's webpage

 

UPDATE:
I received an E-mail from Dirk here it is:


From: "Dirk Timmermann" <dtimmerm@thirdgen.org> To: "John O'Bryan" <jobryan26@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Subject Message from Thirdgen.org
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:49:42 -0700

Hello John,

I have already seen that other post I haven't responded to it yet
though. I want to see what other people's thoughts are first. I have been
trying to follow both the threads but time constraints and other stuff make
it hard for me to post a lot But I am reading what other people are
saying. I did go and create a cafepress.com account the other night when I
read your post and Brad is working on a T-Shirt design right now. Actually,
more than one design So, even though I may not be replying to all the
posts, know that I AM reading them and am going forward with at least the
t-shirt idea for now

Thanks!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John O'Bryan [mailto:jobryan26@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:13 AM
> To: dtimmerm@thirdgen.org
> Subject: Subject Message from Thirdgen.org
>
>
> Hey Dirk,
> I just saw another post over in Appearance on the subject of what we was
> talking about, Cafepress.com. I don't know if you've already seen it so I
> thought I would send you the link. I'm in love with the idea and
> so are many
> others. Please take a look. Thanks John
> https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/001854.html
>


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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

Member at kyfbodies.org

 

I'd go for a shirt, too... and definately a coffee mug. I go through enough of that in the garage to need a mug in there! Too bad about the license plates... one would've looked good in the garage.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
---Think your car could be pic of the week? Visit http://www.f-body.net for details!

 

I'd buy one.

Steve

 

definitly a shirt

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89 IROC-Z 350 TPI

-Flowmaster Catback
-Performance Resource Chip
-700R4 (Rebuilt) Too much done to actually list
-K&N Airfilters
-Ported Plenum
-2.77 Gears (not much to brag about but eh, its there)
-MSD 8.5 mm plug wires
-Gutted cat
-!AIR
-Gutted Air Boxes

 

Could you imagine being at the
NHRA Autolite Nationals
& seeing some people crusin' around in one of these t-shirts?,....
It'd be great

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<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/d_madbrewer/moonshiner.html" TARGET=_blank>
Got Home Brew?</A>,....
If you can catch a quick race @ 5am on your way to work,....win or lose, it'll be a GREAT DAY,
(better than coffee)


[This message has been edited by MadBrewer (edited May 26, 2001).]

 

I'd put out a bit more cash to keep a quality site like this running for sure... It all works out in the long run, the site makes money... We get more articles pictures movies and all of that good stuff we have come to love.

Count me in for an overpriced t-shirt mug mousepad im game

Gta-Paladin
aka
Thanos

 

Didn't this whole thread arise about a year ago, too?

I'd settle for one of the window clings that was being discussed back then, but I know Dirk has his hands full of a lot of other things that are more important than selling promotional items.

 

I've only been on here for a short time but would be proud to wear one of those shirts, and now I'm here everyday,like alot of you,I'm sure!!And for all the info I've gotten from you guys I'd gladly spend $20.00 on a thirdgen t-shirt.:d:d

 

WE WANT SHIRTS (and stuff)!!!! WE WANT SHIRTS (and stuff)!!!! I would buy at least 2 (or maybe 10) and have them put in a picture frame. One showing back and other front, and hang them in my shop. Right next to Debbe Dunning!!!

 

one of the admins please read this and e-mail me so i know you got it...heh

klayburn@woh.rr.com

i bought a t-shirt from cafepress, they are nice quality, and the print is the ****
i work tech support and i got a shirt that say "**** Modems" on the front, and it had my supervisor webpage logo on the back, its one of my favorite shirts, i wear it all the time, if you guys got shirts from them, id buy one...

 

I'm all for it as well. I'd love a T-Shirt and some decals!!

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82 Z28 383, Ported 215cc Dart Iron Eagle Heads 72 cc Comb. Chambers, Comp custom grind Hyd roller cam, Speed Pro .250" domes, Wheeler Motorsports 4340 I beam rods, Eagle 5140 steel crank, Weiand Team G intake, Holley 830 DP, hedman headers
Trans: Turbo 350 w/ 4000 stall -- Rearend 7.5 w/ Richmond 4.10's, Auburn Minispool
Best ET:11.63 @ 113.25, w/ a 7.39 1/8 @ 93.04, and a 1.626 60'


89 RS, L03 305, Hypertech Chip,cat delete, Dynomax exhaust,K&N open element Filter,160 stat, MSD coil --Trans:700R4 Corvette Servo -- Rearend: 7.5 GM 3.42 w/ posi-lock
New Best ET: 14.91 @92.9
Bassett Racing

 

Sh@t .. the money this site has saved me ...Ive only been a member for about 2 months and I'd buy a shirt....

This site Rocks...

Definitely an Iroc and a TA on the Logo...

Mike

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Mike
88 Iroc-Z 350 tpi, Hedmann Headers, 3" Cat Back, MSD Ignition, K&N, AirFoil

 

Dirk, next time I'm on my computer I'll dig up a couple links and send them to you. I found a place that would silk screen multi color logos onto shirts and the price wound up at somewhere around $11 or $12 a shirt, plus a 1 time cost for making the silk screen. If you're going to be doing a bunch of shirts, this will give you the opportunity to get good silk screened shirts at a reasonable cost. The same place also does embroidery and that sort of thing. I've been meaning to get some embroidered polo shirts made for the IROC Homepage, but I've been too busy trying to make my car run.

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The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

 

More peer pressure.
CHUG CHUG CHU---
i mean,

get the bloody stuff already, im going to make a new post, each persons going to sign to show...

please.

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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback, Fourth Gen Console. i have six cupholders. all for starbucks!
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap
God Created The Earth, And Then Turned Up The Bass

 

I know that I am not a member, but I have been a graphic artist for many years, just let me know if you wanna have a logo. I love this site, and won't charge a thing. Just let me know.

 

People start posting some logos and uhhhh.... slogans so we can start voting on an idea. This way if Dirk decides to do this we could decide what the final product would look like.

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Mike
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS 305 TBI
My Website
Administrator at Auto-Clubs.net
Moderator at ColoradoF-Body.com
My Baby

 

I would put the Thirdgen.org logo on the front-change the color of the camaro to blue, the firebird to yellow, and the lettering to red for visual appeal (If you change the color do it to the site logos as well) and sell logo space on the back to the vendors whose products/services we purchase. Your local screenprinting house is probably the cheapest way to go with great quality, they can provide samples and design/modify the artwork. I would also like to see a large decal so I can mount it on a magnetic sheet to put on my car while autocrossing and attending car shows! This would be the least expensive way to manufacture and sell shirts,a win-win-win situation for the site, vendors, and us thirdgen buffs!

[This message has been edited by BlackZee (edited June 29, 2001).]

 

I would buy a t-shirt or long sleeve shirt or decals or anything that had thirdgen.org on it!! I love this site!!

 

i don't mean to be a party pooper but i think

THIRDGEN.ORG plastered across a f-body is not too attractive.

 

I think that there would be a good market for this type of stuff. There is already a huge base of members to this board.

In fact I've been looking for a 3rd gen camaro coffee cup to use at work!!!

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http://www.gruveb.com/z28

 

Yeah, sounds a little rice-boy to me. I'd wear a shirt though, or maybe some boxers ... chicks dig cars.

 

I would go for a shirt.

Use it to show pride in the cars.

Dale