75mpg... guaranteed
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75mpg... guaranteed
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/75-MP...QQcmdZViewItem
Really convincing story... what do you think? I think if it was real, they would charge a little more than that!
Really convincing story... what do you think? I think if it was real, they would charge a little more than that!
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"There's a sucker born every minute"
— David Hannum, re. P.T. Barnum's stone "giant"
"and two to take his money"
— Anonymous
— David Hannum, re. P.T. Barnum's stone "giant"
"and two to take his money"
— Anonymous
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From: Armpit state
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This might be what you looking for.
Why buy it? Its free to view for everyone to see.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...7&RS=4,611,567
Why buy it? Its free to view for everyone to see.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...7&RS=4,611,567
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you mean i could be getting 75 mpg instead of 15-20? who do i make the check out to?
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Check out this link:
http://www.himacresearch.com/books/secret1.html
Smokey Yunick (sp?) was messing aroung with a Fiero, using some of these principles. It's been a long time since I saw the article in Hot Rod, so I don't remember what his final results were. Either way, the book is probably worthless.....
http://www.himacresearch.com/books/secret1.html
Smokey Yunick (sp?) was messing aroung with a Fiero, using some of these principles. It's been a long time since I saw the article in Hot Rod, so I don't remember what his final results were. Either way, the book is probably worthless.....
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Even if it were real, how many cars have carbs anymore? A few diehard performance guys & some antiques.
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well, if you could get the "vapor/fuel" in the eng. and get a complete burn then yes, you could get a bit more mpg out of it however I can't see getting this type of system to work right. I would think you would see it running lean more than anything and getting uneven burning, pre ign. ect happening all the time destroying the eng. to get 100-200 mpg you would need to make use of all the energy from the burn. (heat for one)
those people tinkering with the cars.. I bet they were people they new playing tricks on them. there was aguy who had just picked up his new car. he was bragging how good of milage it got. so everyday the guys would add gas to his car.
he was so impressed that he never had to fill it. well one day they stopped putting gas in his car
he was flipping out how his milage was very low and some thing must be wrong
those people tinkering with the cars.. I bet they were people they new playing tricks on them. there was aguy who had just picked up his new car. he was bragging how good of milage it got. so everyday the guys would add gas to his car.
he was so impressed that he never had to fill it. well one day they stopped putting gas in his car
he was flipping out how his milage was very low and some thing must be wrong Supreme Member
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Well the story is true, but I doubt its anywhere near 75 mpg, I heard it was 30 mpg on a big block.
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Originally posted by 88 350 tpi formula
those people tinkering with the cars.. I bet they were people they new playing tricks on them. there was aguy who had just picked up his new car. he was bragging how good of milage it got. so everyday the guys would add gas to his car.
those people tinkering with the cars.. I bet they were people they new playing tricks on them. there was aguy who had just picked up his new car. he was bragging how good of milage it got. so everyday the guys would add gas to his car.
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Originally posted by Ricktpi
Even if it were real, how many cars have carbs anymore? A few diehard performance guys & some antiques.
Even if it were real, how many cars have carbs anymore? A few diehard performance guys & some antiques.
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Assuming 100% efficiency of the internal combusion engine, isn't it about 100 miles out of a gallon or am I simply remembering my numbers all wrong?
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also, if this "technology" was ever mass used, the oil companies would simply increase price to compensate, so it would be no different as it is now as far as saving money on better milage.
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why couldn't you give the gas an ionic charge so the gas molecules would repel eachother? It seems that would give a much more efficient burn.
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If you do the thermodynamics I think the biggest detractor from fuel mileage is the heat lost to the cooling system.
If you think about it when you get an emmisions test the guys at the shop can tell you how many unburned hydrocarbons are coming out your tail pipe in addition to calculating how much incomplete combustion is going on by measuring the CO and NOx levels. But I think these pale in comparison to how much heat (and pressure) is lost to heating the block and exhaust system.
If you could take ALL the heat generated by your combustion and use it to do work on the air pushing the piston down -- then you would see huge gains in power and mileage.
If you think about it when you get an emmisions test the guys at the shop can tell you how many unburned hydrocarbons are coming out your tail pipe in addition to calculating how much incomplete combustion is going on by measuring the CO and NOx levels. But I think these pale in comparison to how much heat (and pressure) is lost to heating the block and exhaust system.
If you could take ALL the heat generated by your combustion and use it to do work on the air pushing the piston down -- then you would see huge gains in power and mileage.
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From: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Car: 91 Camaro RS
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THERE IT IS! Instead of a spark plug, let's use a particle accelerator.
On 88305tpiT/A's idea: A ceramic engine coated in thermocouples may help to recover lost heat energy which I guess could be fed to a storage battery for a...h y B r i d engine...did I just say that?
Maybe find a way to collect all the heat energy & concentrate it for some other use such as a turbine...Even if we couldn't get the engine very efficient, maybe we could collect enough left-over energy to run all the accessories in the car: Heat, A/C, etc...
On 88305tpiT/A's idea: A ceramic engine coated in thermocouples may help to recover lost heat energy which I guess could be fed to a storage battery for a...h y B r i d engine...did I just say that?
Maybe find a way to collect all the heat energy & concentrate it for some other use such as a turbine...Even if we couldn't get the engine very efficient, maybe we could collect enough left-over energy to run all the accessories in the car: Heat, A/C, etc...
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Originally posted by PhLaXuS
THERE IT IS! Instead of a spark plug, let's use a particle accelerator.
THERE IT IS! Instead of a spark plug, let's use a particle accelerator.
I have a 305 and i'm trying to install this flux capacitor I bought off e-bay, can anyone help?
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Originally posted by 88_Import_Slaye
I have a 305 and i'm trying to install this flux capacitor I bought off e-bay, can anyone help?
I have a 305 and i'm trying to install this flux capacitor I bought off e-bay, can anyone help?

To much quifibrillation to truly atomize the exhaustive effects.
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Wow,holy crap!I'm gonna buy this,get 75MPG,plus the extra10% for the magnetic ionizer I bought from JC whitney,thats over 80 MPG!This is great,WE'RE ALL SAVED,FELLAS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by JungleMan
Sounds like kind of an expensive way to play a prank to me
Sounds like kind of an expensive way to play a prank to me
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Originally posted by PhLaXuS
Assuming 100% efficiency of the internal combusion engine, isn't it about 100 miles out of a gallon or am I simply remembering my numbers all wrong?
Assuming 100% efficiency of the internal combusion engine, isn't it about 100 miles out of a gallon or am I simply remembering my numbers all wrong?
who said 100% eff. was = to 100 mpg???? you lost me there
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Originally posted by Ricktpi
Even if it were real, how many cars have carbs anymore? A few diehard performance guys & some antiques.
Even if it were real, how many cars have carbs anymore? A few diehard performance guys & some antiques.
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Those are some EXTREMELY loose numbers I'm throwing out. IIRC, the standard 4-cycle internal combusion engine is ~30% efficient and seems to get ~35 MPG average. If the numbers I'm remembering are correct, that would be about 100 MPG average. I could be completely off the deep end, though.
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Einstein's had a theory that 1 gram of matter if totally converted to energy would contain enough energy to heat a house for about 1000 years. His other theory was E=MC2 which means energy times the speed of light squared. According to this theory, a definate mass is always converted into a definate amount of energy, hence 10 gallons of Gas =300 miles.
Where are the great scholars with their science today? Ripping us off I tell you.
Where are the great scholars with their science today? Ripping us off I tell you.
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Dude,I'm tellin' you guys,you NEED the magnet thingy!!!!
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has anyone actualy tried to build on one?
if any of these stupid things work/dont work ,the only way to tell is to build on and see if it works.
there are thousands of similiar gas vaporizer products and ideas out there that ONE of them has to work.
anyone want to try and build one?
if any of these stupid things work/dont work ,the only way to tell is to build on and see if it works.
there are thousands of similiar gas vaporizer products and ideas out there that ONE of them has to work.
anyone want to try and build one?
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sure, if your buying the plans and parts 
We can make the first thirdgen that will run constant 8s on the 1/4 and use less than a drop of gas each run!

We can make the first thirdgen that will run constant 8s on the 1/4 and use less than a drop of gas each run!
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They got cars that can run on water and there keeping that a secret too
And my buddy has a weed book and it talks about how many fuels it can be but the govt wont let it happen....For example....why ruin all the trees when we can make hemp paper
And they can make cars run off resin lol
And my buddy has a weed book and it talks about how many fuels it can be but the govt wont let it happen....For example....why ruin all the trees when we can make hemp paper
And they can make cars run off resin lol
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bio diesel is proven,all these wild 100mpg claims have yet to be proven.
i have not seen one video or pictures of a running vehicle with any of these crazy gas maliage things,not one.
youd think if they worked SOMEONE would have been screaming it on here by now. im mean,if you did get 75 mpg out of a v8 with MORE power,youd have trouble keeping people from stealing your car just to get the secret of how it works!
i ay we take up a collection to buld a few of these devices and actually put them on someones car.
we can put one on my astro van,its got a 3800 and a 5 speed,it should be easy,and 75 mpg would sure be nice.
i have not seen one video or pictures of a running vehicle with any of these crazy gas maliage things,not one.
youd think if they worked SOMEONE would have been screaming it on here by now. im mean,if you did get 75 mpg out of a v8 with MORE power,youd have trouble keeping people from stealing your car just to get the secret of how it works!
i ay we take up a collection to buld a few of these devices and actually put them on someones car.
we can put one on my astro van,its got a 3800 and a 5 speed,it should be easy,and 75 mpg would sure be nice.
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Originally posted by 84z28350
sure, if your buying the plans and parts
We can make the first thirdgen that will run constant 8s on the 1/4 and use less than a drop of gas each run!
sure, if your buying the plans and parts

We can make the first thirdgen that will run constant 8s on the 1/4 and use less than a drop of gas each run!
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If you want 75 MPG,
Don't start the engine, Put one gallon in the tank then...
Push it everywhere!
Would make some awful 1/4 times though.
Don't start the engine, Put one gallon in the tank then...
Push it everywhere!

Would make some awful 1/4 times though.
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There is so much of this stuff on the web you don't need to buy it. We even have posts about this that actually get into tech as opposed to all this babble so
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