Bad Valve guides
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From: Hurlburt Field, Florida
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350 SBC
Transmission: Probuilt 700R-4
Bad Valve guides
My trick flow heads have a couple of bad valve guides. Do you guys think I should just have new bronze valve guides put in or should I go with the bronze inserts. And where could I get an insert kit from?
the inserts are the guides, unless i'm missing something. i've never been gave an option from my machine shop, they just tell me they replaceda valve guide. back in my go karting days the valve guide was a bronze bushing or insert pressed into the aluminum casting.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
The only time a guide is not an "insert" is when it is cast into the head (like typical cast iron heads).
You need to get a set of bronze guides and have them installed by a machine shop. This is not a do-it-yourself type of job unless you have machining equipment at your disposal. I have no clue if Trick Flow guides are the same as factory replacement guides. Ask TF directly.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4, 2300 stall TC. Ported World 305 heads, Crane PowerMax 2050 cam. ZZ3/4 intake, oil pump, pan & baffle. Accel HEI SuperCoil & module. Hooker 2055 headers, 3" Catco cat & 3" catback w/dual-opposite Flowmaster 80. 2.93 limited slip. Spohn SFCs waiting to be installed. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily year-round driver. Best ET, speed TBD...
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You need to get a set of bronze guides and have them installed by a machine shop. This is not a do-it-yourself type of job unless you have machining equipment at your disposal. I have no clue if Trick Flow guides are the same as factory replacement guides. Ask TF directly.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4, 2300 stall TC. Ported World 305 heads, Crane PowerMax 2050 cam. ZZ3/4 intake, oil pump, pan & baffle. Accel HEI SuperCoil & module. Hooker 2055 headers, 3" Catco cat & 3" catback w/dual-opposite Flowmaster 80. 2.93 limited slip. Spohn SFCs waiting to be installed. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily year-round driver. Best ET, speed TBD...
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. '66 396, 9.7:1 forged TRWs, Weiand Action+, Holley 750VS w/4150 conversion, GK 270 cam, Magnum rockers, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" Hedders & 3" Warlocks, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, MegaShifter, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Idles smooth @ 700 RPM in D. Best 15.02/95.06 @ 5800' Bandimere (corrected 13.93/102.4 @ sea level).
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Car: 87 Formula
Engine: 327
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Theres two different styles of guides. This may be what he's meaning. One is kindof a bronze helicoil. If there isnt alot of wear in the guide, these work well. It will take the slack out and provide a bronze surface with a spiral groove that holds oil for lubrication. This could be called an "insert"
If the guide is excessively worn then "new" guides could be installed. In iron heads a reamer is used to ream the old guide to a much larger size then a new guide is pressed into this larger hole and machined to fit. Aluminum heads just need the old guide pressed out and the new pressed in. Big block heads use press in guides right from the factory.
If the guide is excessively worn then "new" guides could be installed. In iron heads a reamer is used to ream the old guide to a much larger size then a new guide is pressed into this larger hole and machined to fit. Aluminum heads just need the old guide pressed out and the new pressed in. Big block heads use press in guides right from the factory.
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