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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Camaros Are Junk

well i would like to say offcially that all camaros and third gens are trash
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I would have to agree after trying to work on my junk today.
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well if they are junk i have a home for your iroc

if u dont want your gd 350 tpi ill take it loser!

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Re: Camaros Are Junk

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well i would like to say offcially that all camaros and third gens are trash
Let me be the first to say that you are immature for posting garbage like this.
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Well the way that I look at it, they may all be junk but I still love mine to death. If they were not junk then why work on them?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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mine is the worse trash i have ever worked on in my life i have a 350 and im putting in slp headers and they wont fit cas the cars trash and the felpro gaskets dont fit and i hate camaros now
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
Well the way that I look at it, they may all be junk but I still love mine to death. If they were not junk then why work on them?
Most of us work on them because we like to work on cars and make them fast. If it wasnt a thirdgen it would be something else.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Come on, you cant honestly tell me there has not been a time when you called your car junk.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
Come on, you cant honestly tell me there has not been a time when you called your car junk.
Lets see, I have worked on 35k dollar cars and called them junk. Thats simply a matter of frustration. I certainly wouldnt keep a car that I truly felt was junk.
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well ill sell u my junk
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Then what the hell is my problem, I love my car because its junk and nobody else will care about it so I do. If you had a 90 RS with 200000 miles on it you would call it junk asap.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
well ill sell u my junk
Grow up.

Facts of life:

Women lie
Work sucks
Headers are a PITA

Thats just how life is. They are not junk, nor is your car. You simply lack the experience and knowledge to properly install them with out problems.

Work through it, dont post garbage like this.
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yes i would have to agree that thats junk and so is mine im not immature but the camaro is the worse car i have ever seen even tho i like my car i cant stand it cas its trash TRASH TRASH but then its not
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
yes i would have to agree that thats junk and so is mine im not immature but the camaro is the worse car i have ever seen even tho i like my car i cant stand it cas its trash TRASH TRASH but then its not
Its not trash. Go and get any other car of the same type and try to do the same thing. Nothing is easy. Take your time and learn what you are doing.

And yes, anyone that posts like that is immature.
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well you can build a house in the hole that is in his floorboard so just agree with him.
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well i dont no how u work on camaros even if u have experience u have to admit the engines are junk
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
Then what the hell is my problem, I love my car because its junk and nobody else will care about it so I do. If you had a 90 RS with 200000 miles on it you would call it junk asap.
I actually have an 87 sports coupe with 150K on it. I have removed the MPFI 2.8 and installed a carb'd 350 and th350 trans. And yes it has headers. It wasnt the easiest swap I have done, but it wasnt hard.

If its junk sell it.
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
well i dont no how u work on camaros even if u have experience u have to admit the engines are junk
The SBC? The small block chevy engine is far from junk. The 350 chevy has the best aftermarket of any engine built. Guys like Smokey Yunik have spent 40 years perfecting it. Face it, it doesnt get much better for a street driven car than a SBC.

Go read some books. Learn a little. Then work on your car.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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it doesnt matter we have worked on and we know wat were doing theres no room for ne thing and its just a rod all of the camaros are rods
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Ok here is where we get serious, the 350 does not have any more aftermarket than the 302 does. Hell fuel injection wise, you can do more to the 302 without the computer trying to rape your engine than with a tpi.
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
it doesnt matter we have worked on and we know wat were doing theres no room for ne thing and its just a rod all of the camaros are rods
What kind of babbling BS is this? What the hell does this mean? A rod? It doesnt matter you have worked and you what?

How old are you? 16?
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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no its junk and you know it
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
no its junk and you know it
Yep 16. Buy a honduh and have a nice life.
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its a rod your cars probably not a rod cas u work on it in all your free time which we dont have time to do
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
its a rod your cars probably not a rod cas u work on it in all your free time which we dont have time to do
What the hell is a rod? In the world of cars a rod is a custom built car that goes fast and looks good.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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well in are language rod means a piece of junk
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Junk is in the eye of the beholder. I looked into a set of headers for my car a couple years back, way too crowded under the hood for this job, forget it. Then antifreeze started leaking from the back of the cylinder head. Then ATF started leaking from the front pump. So at this point the headers started looking more feasible.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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my point it wont fit
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Are you calling it junk then lol?
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well ur cars tight i wish that was mine
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
my point it wont fit
It amazes me. How many of these cars are running around with headers, and you have the ONE that they wont fit on. Seems kinda fishy to me.
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no its for a 89 iroc and there slp headers
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They will fit because I put them on but it was a hell of a job to do making it junk.
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Originally posted by iroc89123445
no its for a 89 iroc and there slp headers
So what is that supposed to mean? If the headers are made for the chassis, then whats the problem?
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Well the motor mounts on his car sink the motor from the engine bay down to china. Then the brake lines might as well be wrapped about his headers even with the indent for the SLP headers. We had to take the valve covers off to get them on and then the holes were slightly off. I am sure its gonna leak.
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
Well the motor mounts on his car sink the motor from the engine bay down to china. Then the brake lines might as well be wrapped about his headers even with the indent for the SLP headers. We had to take the valve covers off to get them on and then the holes were slightly off. I am sure its gonna leak.
Having to take the valve covers off happens. Not really a big deal. Lots of people take them off every 2K miles. what do you mean the holes were slightly off? And I dont really understand the brake line problem either.
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the headers are almost toching the breaklines passenger side was easy the driver side was a bitch
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Ok here is where we get serious, the 350 does not have any more aftermarket than the 302 does. Hell fuel injection wise, you can do more to the 302 without the computer trying to rape your engine than with a tpi.
Yea you are right. I mean with the tunnel ram, super ram, miniram, large mouth, stealthram, and LT1 intake (I can name more) there just isn't any fuel injection support for the common multi port SBC. Multi port is multi port my friends and the SBC by far has the most options available to it. You guys need to step away from your opinions and open a few IC engine books as well as spending some time at the track.

The computer is not responsible for any limitations TPI may have. The same basic closed loop principals apply to all multi port engines. Even the 302's can't escape this. The mechanical aspects of the motor determine its powerband and intended usage. However, I am sure you already knew this given you just got your license.
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Its almost as if the headers were made with slight error, it felt like you had to crossthread at least one of the bolts to get the headers on there, sorta wierd.
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I bet his car is a rotted out piece of crap. It also seems to me he is an immature tard lol.
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I have seen mustangs out there that have h/c/i and can still have some power on the stock tune. Plus the intake does not choke them out at 4500rpms like the tpi. I know that just like our tbi's if you do h/c/i you will have a sloppy and no power engine. You guys cant even pretend that the 302 does not have at least just as much of an aftermarket as any sbc.
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i guess you try to work on it camaros are the worst cars to work on ever
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Sagging motor mounts are normal for a car that is 16 years old. The headers you put on weren't designed to fit on a car with worn out parts. Fix the motor mounts and 99% of your clearance issues will go away. Likewise, brake lines are flexible and you can easily push them out the way of the header primaries.
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I have seen mustangs out there that have h/c/i and can still have some power on the stock tune.
Same goes for any GM MAF car. Big woop.
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The whole point of the argument is you trying to prove that the sbc has more aftermarket out there. I was just trying to say that the 302 is at least equal to the 350...not behind.
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Wow, grow up kids...
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Quit calling us kids, just because somebody has an opinion does not mean they are kids, your no better than anyone in here for just posting to say that and not nothing pertaining to the subject.



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