omgnowayareyouseriouslmao!

 

DUDE, SERIOUSLY GET LIKE A V-10 VIPER ENGINE AND DROP IT IN THERE. YOUR PARENTS WOULD NEVER KNOW IF YOU PUT A 1 INCH EXHAUST ON IT.

Seriousliy though, your car is slow, and will be slow. To make it fast, youre going to either have to put a nice big v8 in there, or stay slow.

"LOL I CAN TURBO MY ENGINE AND STUFFS" Yeah, and you still wont be as fast as a stock 305. The only cars you would race then would be like honda civics and crap, and they would still give you a run for your money. Your car is VERY heavy compaired to a lot of cars out there.

But seriously, if you were to soup up your v6 camaro.. youre never going to be able to soup it up fast enough to even consider racing a stock ls1 camaro, and whats the fun in that?

Go big or go home. Get a 350 and stroke it to a 383, then you wont be ragged on as much

 

I don't think any V6 cars came with a posi rear. Did you confirm it yourself or did the guy you bought it from say it had a posi? If it does indeed have a posi it was probably swapped in later.
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I really doubt that...

 

I was more less trying to get a point accross. That comment wasnt meant to be taken literally, it was hinted joke. IF you put a turbo on the 3.1 and did all the work properlly, then you would have fun racing against me in my 350. If you some how managed to actually forge the internals and ran like 15-20 lbs of boost, then yes, you would have yourself a very formidable car, but with the amount of money required to do so, you could have sold your 3.1 camaro and have bought a used 300zxTT or something.

You could possibly even one up mw66nova, take that 3.1, soup it up, run 11's and then you will have some respect. The reason no ones taking you seriousliy is because this all seems like a giant pipe dream to us.

Another problem youre going to run into is where are you going to find high performance parts for that engine? Why would a company waste VERY valuable time, money, and research developing parts for an engine that only 100/1,000,000 people are going to buy? Its not very cost effective to develope high performance parts for engines like that. The reason honda civics are easy to upgrade is because there is a huge market for those engines, companys know that people will buy the parts.

If you manage to take that 3.1 and run 11's with it, you will get a serious amount of respect from me, and I can safely assume the same for everyone else as well.

If you do it, the more power to you.

But dont be like me, getting your first car and expecting to turn it into something really fast, I learned my lesson the hard way by trying to soup up a 3.8L ford v6 that came in my 93 mercury cougar *first car I owned* The most I ever actually ended up doing to it is getting a cold air intake and *after blowing a headgasket* getting the heads milled for higher compression. The transmission died in that car a month later.

Proritize your money, dont spend it all on an engine that youre not going to see awesome gains out of.

If anything, get some nitrious and goto town with a 75 shot.

 

by posi i meant limited slip crap, where it locks back left and will sizzle back right.....my bad and ya thanks ill prob do a good tune up and through a 3inch exhaust on it and wait a while and drop a 350 or somethin in there, I have a 454 at my grandmas but idk dont care right now, thanks for info. Oh and this isnt my first car, technically 3rd, I have a 75 f250 highboy that i need to finish restoring and then i had the neon and now this.

 

no v6 3rd gen f-body had a lsd other then the turbo transam

 

if that's the case then you need your limited slip fixed cause the clutch pack is prolly worn out. a good limited slip should lock both tires together.

or is it a torsen style limited slip?

doubt anyone would put a viscous style limited slip

maybe you just have an open differential in there and for some reason unknown to us you think you have a limited slip.



guys don't ruin this for me please

 

if it has lsd then someone put it in there because it didnt have it from the factory. this kid is a ***** and it pisses me off because im 16 and i have to grow up with this generation of car people. When i tell kids my age about camaros they laugh and talk about there boys "souped up prelude" or some bs car like that and the thing that really gets me is that they actually like that 4 banger sound and no torque

 

one up me, huh? guess i'll just have to go 9's on my 305,

 

Your dad is a an ex-pro racer.... your uncle is some master mechanic... and your grandma has a 454 sitting around the house.... is your mom Danica Patrick?

 

way to ruin it kid

 

My uncle is good, yes and my dad is an ex racer, not pro, and i have a 454, 460, 350, 400, 360, 6cyl diesel engine, 3spd chevy tranny, a dodge ram, a 1969 satellite with 383 police interceptor in it, the f250 highboy and all this is in south dakota. and cant remember what it is but a 5window cabbed chevy i believe. And dont all firebirds come with the whatever shi* in the rear where it locks all tires but the back right.....and u can sizzle it all day...

 

your rear is called a open rear the left tire never spins.

 

it locks all the tires in the rear but the back right?

how many tires do you have back there?


but eitherway the differential that spins one tire while the other just sits there is an open differential. that or a worn limited slip

then you have the limited slip differential.
it could be the clutch type which is the most common type I would say. you have a locker style, gear style (aka torsen) , viscous or many other kids.


whtas this posi thing you speak of?

 

That's called an open rear. You do NOT have a limited-slip differential. Posi is just a short term for "Posi-traction" which was actually a coined phrase by one of the big 3 made up back in the 60s, don't remember who it was. In any case, the true name is limited-slip differential.

Basically what happens in a stock Fbody LSD, when one tire begins to loose traction, the other tire locks up and spins with it, so that BOTH tires light up. No V6 3rd gen had an LSD. One tire lighting up is an open rear, or a busted LSD. In your case I'm going to say it's a bone stock open rear end. Both tires will never spin at the same time.

My 97 has a limited slip differential, and both tires DEFINETLY spin (150' of rubber from a 3k rpm clutch dump):

 

Thanks for clearing it up. open rear it is then. oh and tomorrow morning ill have all the tune up done...(oil/oil filter,plugs/plug wires,distributor cap/rotor,air filter,pcv valve)

 

if the tranny fluid is burnt and dark i really hope your not changing it

 

Zeikjds reminds me an awful lot of a certain person who used to post here that liked to cover everything in his car in fur...

 

wtf fur??????????? and yes im changin it durrrrr

 

i was gonna supe up my 2.8, but instead i decided i didnt want it and about 2 weeks later it got totaled. 2 weeks after that i got my iroc. but if you really want to do something to the 3.1 heres a site. ARI Engines - Grandview, MO - www.engine-parts.com
thgis site is specifically for gme 60 degree engines.

 

Dont listen to them, dont do much souping besides, high flow cat, catback maybe a cut out though, when you get tune up parts get msd wires and generally performance parts, get a k&n call it a day. If you want a fast car your gonna need alot of work. just learn from ur 6 like i did/doing and have fun with it, if the engine blows, o well things happen, swap in a 350..

Im not saying its stupid to build up a v6, because i know some quick 6's 13 sec stock motor 02 camaro, wieght reduction,4.10's,tuning...

have fun get the car runing first, then get soppourting mods then maybe when your done with soppourting mods you may need a new motor


HAVE FUN!!

 

all done and it runs frickin nice, imm gonna give my sis with her 350 88 firebird a run for her money. its pretty sweet and catbacks goin on this week.

 

so with a tune your going t give a 350 in a bird a run for it's money?


I'm taking it your sister just doesn't know how to drive? she does know what to push to go fast right? cause that is all she would need to know how to do to win.

that or she needs to fix the car cause you if you give her a run for the money on a stock car there is something wrong

 

 

No...not that again...anything but that....although that was some of the funniest shiznit that I ever read on the internet

Zeikjds...LOL....good luck

 

not right now when im done with the car,duh.in like a couple months

 

well duh you said you where done

so duh I guess your not done even though you said so huh?

 

this thread is going nowhere.

 

im done with the tune up, now cat back and whatever else im doin, but ya this thread is going nowhere

 

x infinity^factorial.

I have people tell me all the time that their 3.8 Stangs, or their V6 maximas will give me a run for my money. Then when it's time to throw down, they have nothing other than about 10 car lengths to show for it.

You DO realize that the 2001+ Honda Civics will pull on you and in most circumstances, beat you. Your car is only making 140hp from the factory, and with it's age, you are probably only putting out 120hp...and that's at the flywheel.

Honestly though I was trying to retain as much respect for you as I can, but I am reading this thread, and you are just not getting it.

Oh and don't worry about whether or not you have an open differential or an LSD...you won't be making enough power to brake those tires loose either way.

 

Im with yah, Im 14 I almost got kicked out of a lab because to kids started to make fun of my "american muscle"

 

*come on, I know you want to*

 

Thats because you're an idiot. You obviously don't know anything about cars, and your V6 is not, and is never going to be fast. (Not to say that they can't be done right, I just doubt you possess the skills.)

Your dad is a racer...? Anyone who takes their car to the local 1/4 on friday night is a racer. Thats everyone (and their father ) on this board.

Anyway, best of luck, (the Panhard rod is a good choice I have one on my Camaro). But seriously, stop wasting everyones time, if you don't have the common sense to check the oil on a car before buying it, you aren't even close to having the ability/responsiblity to build or drive a fast car.

 

QFT, one of the more intelligent things said thus far.

 

Glad I could help

 

If you were sixteen and had the choice to stay with a ****ing 2000 dodge neon or go to a 1991 firebird, you wouldnt care about oil, I checked it and all the others along with driving the car(it "had" a miss) and now as soon as i get some rust above rear tires off im good to prime the car and start putting my money in it, rebuild etc. You wouldnt even give a damn that the oil is black. and the neon most likely would need work soon. started sounding like a piston was *****ed up so...... didnt care and just thought u all should know... oh and no more posting lock this thread. I started it and im ending it!!!!!

 

A whole lot of good that happened in between

 

What?

 

Also everyone go here plz
Pinks!!!!

 

I honestly wonder what the hell is going on with this generation of kids. They can't stop lying (about anything). When confronted with somebody who actually knows what they are talking about they push the lies even further. You would think the oposite would be true. I actually entertain them sometimes in the hope that I get an intelligent conversation, but I never do. This actually happens quite often.

Just last week I go into a gas station and a kid asked about my shirt (its got a blown chevy camaro), he asks me what I drive and I tell him.(See sig). I tell him it has around 570hp on street trim and around 650 overdriven. After all of this wasted time, he then tells me he has a suped up crown vic with 900HP and his transmission DROPED on the floor because of the power. He wasnt even joking, I laughed because I thought it was a joke.

The point is I spent countless hours, I always research everything I do, spend the money, and effort, I have a blower sticking out of the hood, and he will still have no shame in telling me he has 900hp, on a gas attendants salary! WTF

Somebody that has lived life at all will see holes in everything any of you kids say (am not including all, just most). As a lesson, it is actually more impressive to speak reality since it wont cause us to laugh, and its believable. You might also make a friend or two that know what they are doing instead of my dad the speedracer, and my grandma Michael Knight. Are you guys thinking!!!! I know it hurts sometimes! But DAMN!

Ah what the hell Ill shut up.

 

lets see b4 i was born my dad raced dirt tracks(70 cuda) and had his personal car(69 satellite 9.7 1/4 mile) over the years its sit and now he owns a dodge ram 3500 wit 350hp by around 900-1000 torque. And he wont let me have a v8(dont trust me). My uncle has fixed everything hes done wrong(tried wiring fan off sisters 88 350 in to the air conditioning among other things) but hes ok,uncle worked at uhaul and now works on buses for a living. Hes a good guy. not joking one bit when i say he is a master mechanic. my dad is so so, he could tune and rebuild an engine among a little on performance but its doubtable on even that. and all i wanted was some quality time with him so i got a builder car finaly when he gave in and let me trade for my 91. and now were dealin with a little rust and hes like durrrrrr and i even know what im doin, but most likely we'll have to take it to my uncles for a day or two,lol. b4 skool starts i will have it over 200 horse(guarantied) and around 250-300 by end of school year and when i graduate im goin into the marines so theres my story and its straight up the truth

 

Thats what ruins it for the rest of us. I'm only 19, and I worked my *** off to build my 12 second (on street tires) car (see sig), and nobody who doesn't know me (especially the good ol' musclecar boys) believes me... Not every kid with a car is a liar, just most of us.

 

that car would be so much quicker if you had a better intake manifold and carb. the torker II and edelbrock carb is REALLY holding you back. a 750 double pumper and a holley street dominator intake and you better be running some drag radials to get the power down!

 

Yeah, but first i'm getting a better cam and 1.6 RR. As long as this car runs though, it won't take priority over my other projects

I'm just running Hankook Ventus street tires on IROC rims. No drag radials for me. I'd love to run slicks, but then it wouldn't be long before I'll be looking for my axle bolts...

Thanks for the suggestions!

 

Whoooooooo CARES ???!!!!

 

You need to take that air filter off unless you like foam inside your engine.. that thing is just for looks thats all.

 

It's only on there for looks. If you look closely at my sig you will see that it isn't even secured.

 

It sure ain't

 

I don't know how you expect to pull 150+ hp out of nowhere on that motor, which, we can all agree, is probably in crappy condition anyhow.

Unless you boost that motor, you are going nowhere fast. Do they even make enough aftermarket parts for that engine to even break the 200hp mark? Don't even think about nitrous. Your motor wouldn't even live to see it's peak HP.

And honestly, if you were smart, you would have checked the condition of the car and haggled down accordingly at the very least. And to trade a 2000 neon for a v6 firebird with a motor that is cooked as far as you know with rust on the quarters/fenders? I would have kept the neon. Either that or just looked into a different car. You are way in over your head here.

 

Just out of curiosity, what mods did you have planned to get you to 300hp?