and will this be worth it other than to un cluster my engine bay???i would like to remove all extra hoses and crap. and also all electronics and go with a distributor that doesnt need a ecm, whats would work for that best?

 

Only if its a non-highway racecar. You can remove them on a street car, but you will be violating federal emissions laws. If you're caught, you can be punished with a huge fine and/or jailtime.

 

we dont have emissions where i live and why would anyone ever care. thats like saying i cant put a carbbed crate motor into say a 92 because it would be illegal, but yeah i hear you, its just everytime ive posted stuff like this someone always says this as if i might not know.
so i was more wonder what can be removed off the stock motor without it running funny, i want it all off since i want headers n stuff

 

No.

JamesC

 

I post it because A) you dont list your city and state in your profile, and B) you make no mention that you already know, and C) there are other people here who dont know and I dont want them to get into trouble.

 

Kev is right maybe should present question better...like this....Hi i'm new to this and live in florida so i dont worry about emissions how can i remove all the ugly emissions stuff and still have my car run well, like the poster i to am intersted.....thanx for any help

 

Like I said, it doesnt matter what your state thinks, removing your emissions equipment is a violation of FEDERAL laws. Not to mention you're giving our hot rod hobby a bad name.

 

oh well many cars with all the emisions crap make more polution that a smooth running motor with none. its also illegal to jay wak too, but alot of people still do it.
so let me reword this......
if i remove the smog pump and stuff on my carrbed motor will it run bad?

 

Ok. So with all that behind us, What is exceptable to remove, adjust, modify, move etc., under the hood of all the jumbled mess, while not violating federal emissions laws. Maybe examples of street car and off-road cars. I agree that even though many individuals break the law, I for one wouldn't want to tarnish the hobby. thk u

 

I have an 86 Iroc and all the emission stuff has been removed. The emissions that were on my car were a joke because it has no post cat o2 sensor.

 

The biggest help for room in engine bay was the smog pump and air tubes. You have to reroute the belt and use a bigger one. www.thirdgen.org/serpentine will show you how to do that. Also no codes are set by this. IMO, if you drive the car alot, it's better to use ecm and dist., O2 sensor etc. for gas mileage. I get 20 mpg alround driving with 89' tpi 305 vin F. I drive 70 miles a day, so mileage is important. I didn't see any difference when removed air pump. I understand your reasoning. It's a "B" just changing the plugs. Big help without the smog stuff on.

 

well mine has several v belts so the smog has its seperate belt and its already removed. im concerned about the funny metal pipes coming off the exaust mani and hoses and stuff and plugging everything off, and also what headers can i fit without custom exaust work

 

If you have emissions, i would remove the air pump but keep it so when you have to pass emissions just put it back on, it takes no more than 10 minutes to put it back on.

P.S. If it aint worth anything, its at least less weight off of the CORRECT part of the car.

 

In some cases, removing the emissions equipment actually makes the car run worse...

 

True that.

EGR for example will lower your gas mileage, and removing the vent canister would screw you up good on the mileage.

The air pump, however, has nothing to do with the operation of the engine. It just inserts air into exhaust to lower emissions. Its marginal help at best, and most of the time it makes no difference since I've seen cars under the CO limit that did not run air pumps way to many times.

 

Hooker Headers are the best fit w/o cutting up your car. Shorty's will fit fine w/o the air tubes. You can get a Y pipe and will work with original exhaust setup. Good headers from alot of reviews and you don't have to go with dual exhaust. Many an article has been written on single vs. dual on these cars. You just don't get that much more out of dual's to warrant the extra work, fit and cost.

 

I just got an email from SEMA, and there is a bill in Florida right now that is considering making you have emissions checks every year or every other year. Better hang on to that stuff a little while longer...

 

Politics in Florida are a mess, just like that crap under my hood. Nothin' ever gets done around here. The gov. christ can't even live up to the laws he passed earlier this year. prop taxes went done a few dollars for few of us while the insurance agencies ARE going to raise rates. But just in case i will hold on to my hippie pipping.

 

Removing your emmissions isnt going to help much with getting headers besides the EGR part. But even then you can get headers that have an EGR pipe.

It may be a TINY bit harder to work around all that emissions stuff, but I'd wait untill you really NEED that extra space before you start gutting it all out.
Until then, leave a well running car a well running car.